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PeakingAroundtheCorner Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 08, 2007 Posts: 449 Location: Cleburne, TX, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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This isn't good, folks. Admiral Fallon is said to have been the only person standing between booosh and war with Iran.
Story Breaking...CNN
Speculation Breaking: There is a sense that Admiral Fallon was "encouraged" to step aside, though he says in his parting statement that it was his decision alone.
Tinfoil Breaking: Cheney is set for a whirl-wind tour of the Middle East....Yeah, just like before the Iraq attack.
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Atlantean_Relic Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 24, 2005 Posts: 826 Location: North of Id, west of Oz, and infront of the damned rabbit
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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Calm down, use English, my Panic is rusty. _________________ Was a long and dark December
When the banks became cathedrals
And the fog
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PeakingAroundtheCorner Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 08, 2007 Posts: 449 Location: Cleburne, TX, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| Atlantean_Relic wrote: | | Calm down, use English, my Panic is rusty. |
Who's panicking? This is just more confirmation that most of us are way ahead of the curve in foreseeing events based on the fact that we pay attention to little details like this and are able to intelligently connect the dots.
Was there ever any doubt in the consensus here that they were going to go after Iran? Fallon has been in a mighty struggle against this criminal misadministration and now he has lost. Which means the booosh and cheeeeney now have a clear road to Iran stretched out in front of them.
The fact that Fallon's "retirement" is so immediate just goes to show that a yes man will be installed and their plan will be executed in fairly short order. They don't have time to Fark around, unless they don't plan to leave. After all, they got there the crooked way, what's to stop them from staying there the crooked way? |
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evilgenius Intermediate Crude


Joined: Dec 06, 2005 Posts: 826 Location: Stopped at the border.
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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Their buddies outside of the military who are losing faith in them will stop them staying in power. The bigger question is, does this mean that Iraq policy has changed? Which side in the military's internal arguments over Iraq is winning, the one that believes Bush or the one that thinks he is a criminal? Is Patreus left trying to hold a center that can't be held? If so, and he knows it, what will he do to change the order of things in such a way that the US will get the best deal it can? _________________ "Hope encourages men to take risks; men in a strong position may follow her without ruin, if not without loss. But when they stake all that they have to the last coin (for she is a spendthrift), she reveals her real self in the hour of failure." |
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shortonoil Fission


Joined: Dec 02, 2004 Posts: 2470 Location: VA USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| OH MY GOD! This will put the Joint Chiefs in direct opposition to the Bush Nuts. Are we going to see the neo-cons frogged marched out of the White House under Marine guard. One can hope? |
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billp Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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What's going to happen? |
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Fishman Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 650 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| ABOUT TIME!!!! After q 4 month for the last 3 years of "we'll be attacking Iran soon, because ....." Of course, if we don't you who have been prognosticating this will again look like idiots. |
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roccman Fusion


Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Posts: 4262 Location: The Great Sonoran Desert
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| Fishman wrote: | | ABOUT TIME!!!! After q 4 month for the last 3 years of "we'll be attacking Iran soon, because ....." Of course, if we don't you who have been prognosticating this will again look like idiots. |
Wow...
(see signature line below) _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
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Fishman Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 650 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| Sorry for the double post, I considered posting it as many times as the "we will be attacking Iran..." threads but I thought that would be rude and well, stupid. |
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heroineworshipper Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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Hopefully this won't impact the invasion of China. Let's face it. Ever since dollars lost all their value, China started asking for real paychecks & their quality control sux. They need a regime change. _________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement & cannibalism. |
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Tyler_JC Moderator


Joined: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 4392 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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Does anyone actually think Bush can muster the political capital for an invasion of Iran in the next 9 months?
It's not going to happen.
Moreover, Iran isn't building nuclear weapons!
People aren't stupid. We went to war with Iraq because we had convincing evidence that Saddam was a direct and immediate threat. The American people do not believe that Iran poses that same level of threat, especially when a rather large fraction of the Congress wouldn't sit back and let Bush spin it.
In 2002, there was no serious opposition to war with Iraq. With no serious opposition and high approval ratings from the American people, Bush was able to burn through his political capital to call for war against Iraq. Could he do the same with an approval rating in the low 30s? I don't think so.
Today, the leading Democrats (and many Republicans) are actively opposing Bush's alleged warmongering with regards to Iran.
Democrat Barack Obama introduced a Senate resolution late Thursday that says President Bush does not have authority to use military force against Iran.
I know it's the doomer wet dream to think about a war with Iran, but it's not going to happen any time soon. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse." |
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emersonbiggins Moderator


Joined: Jul 10, 2005 Posts: 4868 Location: Dallas
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| Tyler_JC wrote: | | I know it's the doomer wet dream to think about a war with Iran, but it's not going to happen any time soon. |
Quoted for posterity
 _________________ "It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."
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shortonoil Fission


Joined: Dec 02, 2004 Posts: 2470 Location: VA USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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emersonbiggins said:
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The military is thoroughly sick of seeing its men crewed up in an asshole war because of the egotistical rampages of a pack of lunatics.
It ain’t going to happen.
But something else interesting may come out of this! |
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gnm Expert


Joined: Jul 08, 2004 Posts: 2565 Location: plundering eco-villages
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| Tyler_JC wrote: | | People aren't stupid. We went to war with Iraq because we had convincing evidence that Saddam was a direct and immediate threat. The American people do not believe that Iran poses that same level of threat, especially when a rather large fraction of the Congress wouldn't sit back and let Bush spin it. |
You're kidding right? I'm sorry but apparently there are LOTS of stupid people.
Maybe you could fill me in on what that clear and present threat was that Saddam posed to the point that it required an attack (no it wasn't pre-emptive war - its called and attack) on a sovereign nation.
-G _________________ All right, you primitive screw-heads, listen up! |
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Tyler_JC Moderator


Joined: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 4392 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy |
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| emersonbiggins wrote: | | Tyler_JC wrote: | | I know it's the doomer wet dream to think about a war with Iran, but it's not going to happen any time soon. |
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People have been talking about war with Iran since 2005 on this forum.
We are no closer to war now than we were then.
If anything, the mood in this country would make war even less likely. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse." |
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