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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This isn't good, folks. Admiral Fallon is said to have been the only person standing between booosh and war with Iran.

Story Breaking...CNN

Speculation Breaking: There is a sense that Admiral Fallon was "encouraged" to step aside, though he says in his parting statement that it was his decision alone.

Tinfoil Breaking: Cheney is set for a whirl-wind tour of the Middle East....Yeah, just like before the Iraq attack.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Atlantean_Relic wrote:
Calm down, use English, my Panic is rusty.


Who's panicking? This is just more confirmation that most of us are way ahead of the curve in foreseeing events based on the fact that we pay attention to little details like this and are able to intelligently connect the dots.

Was there ever any doubt in the consensus here that they were going to go after Iran? Fallon has been in a mighty struggle against this criminal misadministration and now he has lost. Which means the booosh and cheeeeney now have a clear road to Iran stretched out in front of them.

The fact that Fallon's "retirement" is so immediate just goes to show that a yes man will be installed and their plan will be executed in fairly short order. They don't have time to Fark around, unless they don't plan to leave. After all, they got there the crooked way, what's to stop them from staying there the crooked way?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Their buddies outside of the military who are losing faith in them will stop them staying in power. The bigger question is, does this mean that Iraq policy has changed? Which side in the military's internal arguments over Iraq is winning, the one that believes Bush or the one that thinks he is a criminal? Is Patreus left trying to hold a center that can't be held? If so, and he knows it, what will he do to change the order of things in such a way that the US will get the best deal it can?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OH MY GOD! This will put the Joint Chiefs in direct opposition to the Bush Nuts. Are we going to see the neo-cons frogged marched out of the White House under Marine guard. One can hope?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ABOUT TIME!!!! After q 4 month for the last 3 years of "we'll be attacking Iran soon, because ....." Of course, if we don't you who have been prognosticating this will again look like idiots.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Fishman wrote:
ABOUT TIME!!!! After q 4 month for the last 3 years of "we'll be attacking Iran soon, because ....." Of course, if we don't you who have been prognosticating this will again look like idiots.


Wow...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sorry for the double post, I considered posting it as many times as the "we will be attacking Iran..." threads but I thought that would be rude and well, stupid.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hopefully this won't impact the invasion of China. Let's face it. Ever since dollars lost all their value, China started asking for real paychecks & their quality control sux. They need a regime change.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Does anyone actually think Bush can muster the political capital for an invasion of Iran in the next 9 months?

It's not going to happen.

Moreover, Iran isn't building nuclear weapons!

People aren't stupid. We went to war with Iraq because we had convincing evidence that Saddam was a direct and immediate threat. The American people do not believe that Iran poses that same level of threat, especially when a rather large fraction of the Congress wouldn't sit back and let Bush spin it.

In 2002, there was no serious opposition to war with Iraq. With no serious opposition and high approval ratings from the American people, Bush was able to burn through his political capital to call for war against Iraq. Could he do the same with an approval rating in the low 30s? I don't think so.

Today, the leading Democrats (and many Republicans) are actively opposing Bush's alleged warmongering with regards to Iran.

Democrat Barack Obama introduced a Senate resolution late Thursday that says President Bush does not have authority to use military force against Iran.

I know it's the doomer wet dream to think about a war with Iran, but it's not going to happen any time soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler_JC wrote:
I know it's the doomer wet dream to think about a war with Iran, but it's not going to happen any time soon.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

emersonbiggins said:

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The military is thoroughly sick of seeing its men crewed up in an asshole war because of the egotistical rampages of a pack of lunatics.

It ain’t going to happen.

But something else interesting may come out of this!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler_JC wrote:
People aren't stupid. We went to war with Iraq because we had convincing evidence that Saddam was a direct and immediate threat. The American people do not believe that Iran poses that same level of threat, especially when a rather large fraction of the Congress wouldn't sit back and let Bush spin it.


You're kidding right? I'm sorry but apparently there are LOTS of stupid people.

Maybe you could fill me in on what that clear and present threat was that Saddam posed to the point that it required an attack (no it wasn't pre-emptive war - its called and attack) on a sovereign nation.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Fallon resigns in tiff with Bush: Puts Iran in Jeopardy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

emersonbiggins wrote:
Tyler_JC wrote:
I know it's the doomer wet dream to think about a war with Iran, but it's not going to happen any time soon.


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People have been talking about war with Iran since 2005 on this forum.

We are no closer to war now than we were then.

If anything, the mood in this country would make war even less likely.
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