Can the government legally confiscate your assets?

kpeavey · Expert Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 565

billp:

i can speak english, some french, and dabble with latin, but I do not speak legalese. My best understanding is that some judges were not properly benched? If you could give me the Cliff notes on that whole affair, it would be useful.
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americandream

The trouble with you Americans is that you see government as something over there...not really being a part of who you are...and wham...you go and fall in behind the first whacko promising you a life free of government....only to encumber you with more of that which he/she promised to rid you of.

Why? Because you fail to see that government is simply the way humans choose, as a relatively socialised pack animal, to organise their immediate environment and resources. It's a necessary evil.

You are never going to get away from government of one sort or another.

It's either going to be an unsustainable mammoth such as that which you have at the moment and which is utterly unreliable simply because it exists to serve hierarchically;

or it will be something more humane in which case, everyone is going to have to give and take and be actively involved;

or it will be one based on primeval brutality, in which case you better be prepared for your worst nightmare as these tend to gravitate towards intolerant opportunism.
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efarmer · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 369

Ron Paul has superb ideas and principles Ludi. The issue is that he
comes out of a Republican party where they should, but do not find
any purchase within to become supported in proportion to their merit.
This leaves him to enter a beauty contest on TV largely on a shoestring and a grassroots effort. He is a trailblazer and not a
beauty queen. When they make a movie about him with Brad Pitt,
everyone will kick themselves in the butt for skipping over a gem.

TheDude

This is another attractive aspect of small towns - everyone knows the officers of the police, thus they're less likely to conduct such draconian undertakings.

I think large cities should be prepared to Balkanize as much as possible, to become self-reliant neighborhoods except for centralized commodities like water. Likely this would often happen on the lines of original townships that were later incorporated into the larger city.

Ron Paul was a non-event. Proof that your average voter puts as much thought into choosing elected officials as they do rotating their tires.
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Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Ludi

I'm sure that's true, efarmer, I'm sure he's great. My point was, Americans DO NOT get behind anyone who comes along promising no government. If they did, they would get behind Ron Paul, who is supposed to be a Libertarian.
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TheDude

Curious that this discussion of asset seizure is turning to Paul - remember the theft of the 'Ron Paul Dollars'?
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Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
"I'm here to tell you that life as you knew it has ended."

efarmer · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 369

I concede your point Ludi, it is true. Lean Constitutional Government?
Nah, I think I'll take the Santa Claus government and I'll pay extra
so he doesn't look at my entry in his big book before he reaches into
the sack for my presents.

BigTex

I believe Ron Paul wrote a book in the 1970s about fiat currencies that is now out of print. When I read about that a while back I thought that would be an interesting one to read.

Ron Paul has been working diligently on all manner of sound currency and small government issues for many many many years.

Back to the OP, if you really want the government to leave you alone, drive the speed limit, pay your taxes and

Keep
A
Low
Profile

It's not that hard to do.

When I was in high school I had long hair, and I couldn't leave my parents' driveway without getting pulled over by the police. As an adult, I get stopped once every five to ten years. Last time was for an expired registration. I got it registered, they dismissed the ticket, and I kept on truckin'.
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frankthetank

I'm with Kpeavey... Although i think chaos will be spread far enough that it will be hard to do anything... I'd worry more about your neighbors then your government. I rarely see a cop around here and i'm in the city. Most of the military is stuck overseas for another 100 years...
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sittinguy · Heavy Crude Joined: Sep 07, 2007 Posts: 206

I agree with frankthetank, If it gets so bad they start confiscating stuff, it will be so bad they won't have the resorces to do it.
The thing that scares me is with the internet and credit card staements it will be easy to find out who has what. Hell, I bought gold off ebay, my credit card is loaded with FD food, propane tanks, water filters, ammo, and there is more coming soon. I'm screwed. They wont even have to look, they could just show up with a list of exactly what I have a say, hand it over.