How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
joelcolorado wrote:
Its like the funies saying the earth is only 6,000 yrs old. We know its not. And that doesnt destroy my faith one bit. How can a finite human being understand creation and an infiinite God.
We all want an infinite God yet we try then to put human qualities and thots into His persona. Weird. We want to understand everything and cannot.
The Gospels are simple and very clear. Jesus told us how to act, what to do and how to be reunited with God, His father. THAT is the key to the bible, not all the arguing and doctrines and theories. What a waste of time while the world is going to hell.
PPl argue bout the end times instead of reaching out to those who are hurting the most and headed for an eternity of separation from God. THAT my friends is the purpse of the entire text. How to reunite man with God. NOT the other things ppl argue about and which separate us into denominations squabbling over details.
Tongues or no tongus, post or pre trib, water baptism or sprinkling..GOOD GRIEF> how God much be grieved.
You are sounding like Samson's heifer brother. Have you been yoked and plowed with them often?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
That was a sad cutting comment but what else do christians do when challenged to think?
Why does a million year history of the earth threaten your faith. The bible says the earth BECAME without form and void. So I think that is when the dinosaurs disappeared to make room for the God Man Adam.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
Ludi, you are so right, people can be so mean to each other, Christian and nonChristian alike. Some folks like you it would be so nice to get to know you better, you seem very concerned (caring) about your family and have alot of knowledge on PO topics-but the internet is a lousy way to develop a friendship. If you and your family ever come through our part of TN let us know-dinner is on us (just don't laugh at my garden-its nothing like yours but I am trying...).
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
joelcolorado wrote:
Why does a million year history of the earth threaten your faith. The bible says the earth BECAME without form and void. So I think that is when the dinosaurs disappeared to make room for the God Man Adam.
Personally, I think it's pretty easy to see the story of Genesis in a way which makes sense with the Earth's development as science teaches, if we look at it as a story or summary instead of as a literal explanation. It seems to be a story told by two different people (the details are different in Gen 1 and 2), or by several people, which makes sense if you think of it as written down after people told each other these stories for perhaps thousands of years before the invention of writing. The Bible is an amazing document because of its age and how intact it is after so many years. Even for non-Christians, the Bible is one of the most important pieces of human literature.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
You know, it does say in the Bible that we can hold slaves but only from neighboring nations. I say, we take some Canadiens as slaves! (Leviticus 25:44)
If you take the bible literally, this is the kind of stuff you can pull out of it. Good luck to you all who think like that...I certainly couldn't live with those types of restictions and even the concept of hell....
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
joelcolorado wrote:
That was a sad cutting comment but what else do christians do when challenged to think?
Why does a million year history of the earth threaten your faith. The bible says the earth BECAME without form and void. So I think that is when the dinosaurs disappeared to make room for the God Man Adam.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
Joel,
If I may say a few words here.
Some Churches are following the trend of replacing God's Word with the wisdom of man. Is this a good idea?
Imagine what would happen to many of the corporations in this world if there was a sweeping revival. Cigerette companies, alcohol companies, bars, raunchy music, pornography, ungodly magazines, Hollywood, television, greed, lust, the pursuit of wealth and so on.
So why would any Corporation support or promote something that would hurt it?
In reality, there are many, many scientists who hold to the young earth creation view and they're backed by very solid science but don't expect to hear much about them in this world.
Here are a few websites I find to be a great blessing.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
Peleg wrote:
There comes a time when things are not right and God's people must be.
"We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding, in order that we might know Him who is true, and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. Little children, guard yourselves from idols."
Amen, peleg.
"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men." (Matthew 5:13)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil
I don't know if anyone is old enough to remember these but lately I've been listening to the Old Fashioned Revival Hour broadcasts. They were broadcast from 1937 to 1968 and they are a great blessing. Here is a link to a website which has many of them recorded.
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