Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Arctic Ice may 'melt away' this summer
Cid_Yama wrote:
So leaving the whole wheat issue aside for now, what in your judgment will be the strongest near-term effects of an ice-free Arctic? (This is for any of the bright folks on the forum.)
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if an ice free artic doesn't wake up most of the population, then I don't know what can. That in the same post that you asked this, there's only talking of how this "will be good for the economy", isn't much hopeful. Are people (in general) so willing to keep the party going even if it's environmental suicide?! _________________ anagami.net
Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Arctic Ice may 'melt away' this summer
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Are people (in general) so willing to keep the party going even if it's environmental suicide?!
Yeah, like buying computers and staying out on the internet, wasting resources on non-essential activities. I won't act so surprised. _________________ "Life is merely an orderly decay of energy states, and survival requires the continual discovery of new energy to pump into the system. He who controls the sources of energy controls the means of survival. "
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Ice may 'melt away' this summer
DefiledEngine wrote:
Yeah, like buying computers and staying out on the internet, wasting resources on non-essential activities. I won't act so surprised.
Even in stone age times people "wasted" resources on frivolity like cave painting. A world so strapped for resources that recreation is no longer possible is no world worth living in.
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Arctic Ice may 'melt away' this summer
It is my understanding that wind patterns depend on a clear and strong differential between polar and equatorial average temperatures. If the difference becomes less strong, winds stagnate. This may take a while to happen, but then everything seems to be happening much faster than the experts had predicted.
Such a development would make all the wind-powered electric generation schemes look pretty silly, just standing around on the prairies and mountain tops with no wind to rotate their enormous blades. Perhaps Lovelock was right about not going to far into wind power?
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Arctic Ice may 'melt away' this summer
dohboi wrote:
It is my understanding that wind patterns depend on a clear and strong differential between polar and equatorial average temperatures. If the difference becomes less strong, winds stagnate. This may take a while to happen, but then everything seems to be happening much faster than the experts had predicted.
Such a development would make all the wind-powered electric generation schemes look pretty silly, just standing around on the prairies and mountain tops with no wind to rotate their enormous blades. Perhaps Lovelock was right about not going to far into wind power?
Never fear, corolious forces will keep the winds blowing from west to east as long as the Earth keeps on turning. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
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