I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: flint and steel
Jenab6 wrote:
I have about 1000 cheapo cigarette lighters.
Gee, that's only about 500,000 lights, are you sure that's enough?
Seriously though, they are probably pretty good for barter and tend
not to lose value.
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Soldiers used matches to find their way in the dark, but the intense
initial flare of matches gave away their position, and many lives were
lost because of this. So the need for fire without a large initial flare
was born. Inventors started improving the design of lighters and by
1918 when the war ended, they were able to be produced fast, easier and cheaper.
Things sure have changed a lot over the years. But lighters
still do make nice lights when getting around in the dark. I used
them in unlit hallways of buildings at night in Ukraine.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: flint and steel
The gift shop at Fort Vancouver (WA) carries flint and steel. The flint was about $2 and the steel was $10. You might try calling them, the gift shop folks are really nice and kinda bored
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: flint and steel
Google 'fire strikers'.
Olaf _________________ "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived." - Henry David Thoreau
Joined: May 13, 2008 Posts: 31 Location: North Florida
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: flint and steel
Jenab6 wrote:
I have about 1000 cheapo cigarette lighters.
Hang on to the empties, I saw something on Discovery just a few days a go, on Man vs Wild or something how you can you the lighter to start a fire even with no fluid. It is primitive, but, ya!?
Get some dry tinder, and start striking, still creates a spark, of course hold the lighter right on top of the tinder to get it going. He got it going pretty quick if I remember correctly. _________________ FL Fireman
Joined: May 13, 2008 Posts: 31 Location: North Florida
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: flint and steel
FLFireman wrote:
Jenab6 wrote:
I have about 1000 cheapo cigarette lighters.
Hang on to the empties, I saw something on Discovery just a few days a go, on Man vs Wild or something how you can you the lighter to start a fire even with no fluid. It is primitive, but, ya!?
Get some dry tinder, and start striking, still creates a spark, of course hold the lighter right on top of the tinder to get it going. He got it going pretty quick if I remember correctly.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: flint and steel
Zeke, to answer your original question, flint (also known as chert) is found in association with limestone generally. If you're in the eastern US it's plentiful, often found in round nodules or flat chunks. A good spot to look is creek beds. It normally has a "cortex" or crust around the outside, you have to break it to see the actual flint inside the nodule. If all else fails look on ebay, folks sell high quality flint there for knapping, it's not expensive to buy 20 or 30 pounds of good pieces.
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