Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 11356 Location: Village of Idiots
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Bug-out vehicle
Pops wrote:
I was in Ventura during the Northridge quake on a job.
I was living in Van Nuys during the Northridge quake! _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 2449 Location: The Entropisphere
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Bug-out vehicle
joeltrout wrote:
Ludi wrote:
Oh crap! There's my bug-out vehicle!
What are the chances of that actually happening???
Especially since I live in a 1 story house and park outside.
joeltrout
My concern would be for the possibility that a running vehicle becomes a target. I always identify two things when I enter a metro area for any period of time. first is the safe place to hit the ground and hide if need be. The second is the railroad tracks out of town. I also try to gauge the time it would take to hike from the place I would go to ground to the outer metro. If it would take about six hours and the sun is coming up at 630 am, then I can stay hidden until a little after midnight. If the power is out than that should be long enough. Once on the tracks i hit a jog until I am out.
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 3896 Location: Graceland
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Bug-out vehicle
wisconsin_cur wrote:
My concern would be for the possibility that a running vehicle becomes a target. I always identify two things when I enter a metro area for any period of time. first is the safe place to hit the ground and hide if need be. The second is the railroad tracks out of town. I also try to gauge the time it would take to hike from the place I would go to ground to the outer metro. If it would take about six hours and the sun is coming up at 630 am, then I can stay hidden until a little after midnight. If the power is out than that should be long enough. Once on the tracks i hit a jog until I am out.
I would rather be discrete than fast.
I assume if the foe was zombie hordes, you would just reverse the order above and hoof it during the daylight, right? _________________ Our window of opportunity is slowly closing...at the same time, it probably requires a spiral of adversity. In other words, things have to get worse before they can get better.
-M. King Hubbert, 1983
Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 4164 Location: Southwest WI
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Bug-out vehicle
Whatever. My bug out shelter is 10 feet away... Running water/toilet/shower (well). Just need a generator and a couple thousand gallons of gas. A large brick wall around the property would help and lots of dogs. I don't need a stinking vehicle! _________________ "Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the capacity to replace reserves is dwindling"
-President Bush 11/07/07
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