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Thumper
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thanks mmasters. It's really strange so far because I feel like many of you are a mirror image of myself.

mmasters wrote:
Anyway, one big thing you'll learn as most all of us do you have to be careful who you talk to about this stuff. We're all reliant on people in life and discussing this stuff will drive most away.

This is exactly why I decided I had to join. I feel like I am holding so much on my shoulders and needed some relief. I can tell you that I honestly wish I had come here first before discussing the issue with friends and family. Not that I have come off as crazy, but because I feel like I should have kept it to myself, and let them live on happily.

What's the ethical solution? To inform or to let them sleep happily in the dark?
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thumper wrote:
Thanks mmasters. It's really strange so far because I feel like many of you are a mirror image of myself.

mmasters wrote:
Anyway, one big thing you'll learn as most all of us do you have to be careful who you talk to about this stuff. We're all reliant on people in life and discussing this stuff will drive most away.

This is exactly why I decided I had to join. I feel like I am holding so much on my shoulders and needed some relief. I can tell you that I honestly wish I had come here first before discussing the issue with friends and family. Not that I have come off as crazy, but because I feel like I should have kept it to myself, and let them live on happily.

What's the ethical solution? To inform or to let them sleep happily in the dark?


Email them a few links (Sirens Shrill was posted earlier today, that is pretty darn straight) from time to time. If they get a clue great, if they don't they don't.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Welcome Thumper,

Glad you're here.

Sorry about why.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thanks Aaron for providing the site and the time and effort of keeping it running.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thumper wrote:
Are there good peer reviewed papers and well documented statistics? or are we all just pissing in the wind with no clear "data"?

Point me to the right forum if you would.


Its not part of peakoil.com but many people use both sites. You can start with stats compiled by the oildrum.com in their oilwatch monthly.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thumper wrote:
This is exactly why I decided I had to join. I feel like I am holding so much on my shoulders and needed some relief. I can tell you that I honestly wish I had come here first before discussing the issue with friends and family. Not that I have come off as crazy, but because I feel like I should have kept it to myself, and let them live on happily.

What's the ethical solution? To inform or to let them sleep happily in the dark?


There is really no ethical dilemma at all. It's not your job to inform the world of anything. Don't make the mistake of thinking it is. That's an easy way to waste a lot of energy.

When people are ready to learn about it, they will see it all around them, just like you did.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thumper wrote:
I count myself a masterful skeptic and will research the hell out of a subject until I find it's flaws.


Welcome. There are many intelligent people here (I learn a Lot!) so be prepared to defend your points, to listen to the responses, to add to the wealth of knowledge, and to occasionally join in the chuckles (lots of gallows humor at times).

Thumper wrote:
Well, it's nice to finally join a group of people that understand and are thinking of how to deal.


Also, be prepared to suffer occasional bouts of depression and the odd nightmare. At least you were able to find The place where others do understand.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thumper wrote:
BigTex wrote:
I'm waiting for a master skeptic.

Isn't FreddyH sort of a voodoo chart reader? His methodology is an averaging approach, right? It might even be that an approach like that will be wrong in every case, since there is no reason to believe that the mean or median of all projections has any special significance.

lol. I can see there are many debates to be had here. Interesting point though really. Where can I dig into the data provided to make these many projections I've seen. Who do I have to blame for my quickening fears that the downward slope is so sheer? Are there good peer reviewed papers and well documented statistics? or are we all just pissing in the wind with no clear "data"?

Point me to the right forum if you would.



TheOilDrum.com is where all the charts are posted.
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