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Thumper Coal


Joined: May 13, 2008 Posts: 6 Location: Atlanta, Ga, USA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: Finally Joined P.O. |
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Hello All!
I somehow crossed the buzzword "Peak Oil" about 6 months ago and have been obsessed ever since I first scanned the wikipedia entry.
I count myself a masterful skeptic and will research the hell out of a subject until I find it's flaws. I've been very reluctant to join the board for that reason alone, as I knew I would receive nothing but positive confirmation of "Peak Oil" when I joined. I wanted to weigh the facts in an unbiased environment before I let go and became a so-called doomer like yourselves.
It's so strange how many people around me, either have no idea or are in perfect denial. I have brought it up to many of my close friends and family whom I often debate with. I am expecting a great debate, but all I get is a depressed "oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense" when all I want to hear is, "no, that's not true and this is why. . ."
Well, it's nice to finally join a group of people that understand and are thinking of how to deal. Look forward to future conversations.
- Thumper |
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Cashmere Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1971
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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Welcome.
Talking with the non-PO DSE is mostly a waste of time. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group. |
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Pops Moderator


Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6943 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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Hey thump, we aren't all doomers, but Bambi doesn't show up much.
Welcome.
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drew Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jul 22, 2004 Posts: 882 Location: canada
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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You should have taken the blue pill, it's easier.
Been here four years now, it's my home of sorts, but the whole PO thing unfolding in front of my eyes is depressing, overwhelming, and frightening at times.
Keep yourself busy doing other things too, aside from coming here.
The last bit is my best advice.
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pstarr Expert


Joined: Sep 27, 2004 Posts: 7138 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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So what you are saying Thumper is that people are starting to understand and accept PO. That should be considered somewhat disturbing as the flock may bolt or the herd stampede when their sorry predicament becomes apparent. $120 barrel/$4.00 gasoline is only a prelude to terminal stagflation--endless prices increases as the economy and employment stagnate and decrease. The bad news is you'll have less money and the worse news is they'll be less to buy  _________________
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vision-master Fusion


Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4739 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| pstarr wrote: | So what you are saying Thumper is that people are starting to understand and accept PO. That should be considered somewhat disturbing as the flock may bolt or the herd stampede when their sorry predicament becomes apparent. $120 barrel/$4.00 gasoline is only a prelude to terminal stagflation--endless prices increases as the economy and employment stagnate and decrease. The bad news is you'll have less money and the worse news is they'll be less to buy  |
"I'm a simple man". |
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BigTex Moderator


Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: Graceland
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| Thumper wrote: | | I count myself a masterful skeptic and will research the hell out of a subject until I find it's flaws. |
I keep waiting for the master skeptic to show up who has figured out why peak oil won't be a problem.
I am like you, and a topic like peak oil can throw your mind into an analytical loop that makes it feel like you're going to blow a fuse.
Best of luck. _________________
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Thumper Coal


Joined: May 13, 2008 Posts: 6 Location: Atlanta, Ga, USA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| Cashmere wrote: | | Talking with the non-PO DSE is mostly a waste of time. |
I'd disagree with you a bit there, as I consider talking with the ignorants as a chance at "normal life". In fact, I prefer to leave it that way and discuss PO with you guys, so I don't have to disturb their happy sleeping faces.
| Pops wrote: | | Hey thump, we aren't all doomers, but Bambi doesn't show up much. |
Great to hear pops. Hope to lose the doom complex myself, as soon as I can quit re-confirming something that is as clear as day. I haven't had the time yet to take a positive outlook. What happened to Bambi? Did we destroy his natural environment too?
| drew wrote: | | Keep yourself busy doing other things too, aside from coming here. |
I catch your drift, and shouldn't be a problem as I'm working so much these days, in order to prepare myself for what's to come. Not sure whether that money will be worth anything in the long run, but might as well try.
| pstarr wrote: | | The bad news is you'll have less money and the worse news is they'll be less to buy |
Well, I make pretty good money at the moment, but I drive about a 1000 miles a week for work, so that equation may change in the next year or two, let alone the coming inflation. |
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Pops Moderator


Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6943 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| Thumper wrote: | | What happened to Bambi? Did we destroy his natural environment too? |
I'm thinking he heard the thumper and ran away.
Dig in, Friend. _________________ Make a plan and work it: |
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Homesteader Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 1185 Location: Central NC
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| BigTex wrote: | | Thumper wrote: | | I count myself a masterful skeptic and will research the hell out of a subject until I find it's flaws. |
I keep waiting for the master skeptic to show up who has figured out why peak oil won't be a problem.
I am like you, and a topic like peak oil can throw your mind into an analytical loop that makes it feel like you're going to blow a fuse.
Best of luck. |
What. . have Freddy and OF2 left the building?
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BigTex Moderator


Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: Graceland
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| Homesteader wrote: | | BigTex wrote: | | Thumper wrote: | | I count myself a masterful skeptic and will research the hell out of a subject until I find it's flaws. |
I keep waiting for the master skeptic to show up who has figured out why peak oil won't be a problem.
I am like you, and a topic like peak oil can throw your mind into an analytical loop that makes it feel like you're going to blow a fuse.
Best of luck. |
What. . have Freddy and OF2 left the building?
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I'm waiting for a master skeptic.
Isn't FreddyH sort of a voodoo chart reader? His methodology is an averaging approach, right? It might even be that an approach like that will be wrong in every case, since there is no reason to believe that the mean or median of all projections has any special significance. _________________
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jedinvest Heavy Crude

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Joined: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 226 Location: No. Calif.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| Cashmere wrote: | Welcome.
Talking with the non-PO DSE is mostly a waste of time. |
And talking with non-PO elephant crap eaters is definitely a waste of time.
Welcome thumper. The truth is we are like a support group, at least, most of the time. |
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Thumper Coal


Joined: May 13, 2008 Posts: 6 Location: Atlanta, Ga, USA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| BigTex wrote: | I'm waiting for a master skeptic.
Isn't FreddyH sort of a voodoo chart reader? His methodology is an averaging approach, right? It might even be that an approach like that will be wrong in every case, since there is no reason to believe that the mean or median of all projections has any special significance. |
lol. I can see there are many debates to be had here. Interesting point though really. Where can I dig into the data provided to make these many projections I've seen. Who do I have to blame for my quickening fears that the downward slope is so sheer? Are there good peer reviewed papers and well documented statistics? or are we all just pissing in the wind with no clear "data"?
Point me to the right forum if you would. |
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Mquinon3 Tar Sands


Joined: Apr 03, 2008 Posts: 38
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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| Welcome, I've been a guest here for almost two years and joined recently myself. I am skeptical of everything as well, but I find myself in the doomer camp also. Glad to have you and no matter which way you go its always good to have open minds here trying to help put the puzzle together. |
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mmasters Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 1935 Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Finally Joined P.O. |
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It was really painful for me when I found out I was living a lie. Peak oil was a rough discovery for me as was gaining total awareness of how the financial system works and how it's corrupted and influenced practically everything in the past 100 years. Along with some life troubles I eventually had a major nervous breakdown from which I'm still recovering.
Anyway, one big thing you'll learn as most all of us do you have to be careful who you talk to about this stuff. We're all reliant on people in life and discussing this stuff will drive most away. Some people wont accept they've been living a lie and aren't compelled to get to the truth. If somebody doesn't want to hear it and they're not the objective truth seeking type it's best not to discuss the topic at all.
As a side note you'll also find some odd types here that have accepted PO but don't see the other huge lies we've all been sold. Then again, they can bring some good perspectives to the table.
Anyhow, I've come to the conclusion we're all here to learn major lessons and be seriously tested, for the most part we're here to learn how not to become a victim. _________________ Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destory health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality. |
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