How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
Saudi Arabia has an abundance of oil as it was once a rich fertile area. During the millions of years that passed, the dead plants and animals slowly decomposed into organic materials and formed fossil fuels.
It is interesting to note that a hadith recognises that the land of Saudi Arabia was a rich fertile area and predicts that it will once again become a rich fertile area.
"The hour will not occur until the land of the Arabs becomes green again"
Whether this is due to global warming or a change in the rotation/ axis of the Earth is unknown. It could also be due to another ice age or the wealth and technology used in Arabia to build gardens in the desert.
The Earth has flipped its axis of rotation several time in the past and when it happens again, it will be an obvious major sign. It will be too late to accept Islam after this time.
Allah's Apostle said, "The hour will not be established till the sun rises from the West; and when it rises (from the West) and the people see it, they all will believe. And that is (the time) when no good will it do to a soul to believe then." Then he recited the whole Verse (6.158).
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
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Allah's Apostle said, "The hour will not be established till the sun rises from the West; and when it rises (from the West) and the people see it, they all will believe. And that is (the time) when no good will it do to a soul to believe then." Then he recited the whole Verse (6.158).
The passing of Nibriu should do the trick.
Watch that SW sky for a second Sun to appear. Maybe visible to the naked eye as early as May 2009.
The Purification will be in order. Another Great Flood will commence with it's passing planet Earth.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
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Whether this is due to global warming or a change in the rotation/ axis of the Earth is unknown. It could also be due to another ice age or the wealth and technology used in Arabia to build gardens in the desert.
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"It was told to me that first the Blue Kachina would start to be seen at the dances, and would make his appearance known to the children in the plaza during the night dance. This event would tell us that the end times are very near. Then the Blue Star Kachina would physically appear in our heavens which would mean that we were in the end times.
"In the Final days we will look up in our heavens and we will witness the return of the two brothers who helped create this world in the birthing time. Poganghoya is the guardian of our North Pole and his Brother Palongawhoya is the guardian of the South pole. In the final days the Blue Star Kachina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter clock wise.
"This fact is evidenced in many petraglyphs that speak of the Zodiac, and within the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids. The rotation of the Earth has been manipulated by not so benevolent Star beings . The twins will be seen in our North Western skies. They will come and visit to see who still remembered the original teachings flying in their Patuwvotas, or flying shields. They will bring many of their star family with them in the final days.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
Ludi wrote:
mass wrote:
The Earth has flipped its axis of rotation several time in the past
Reference please?
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Question #6-A
I need to know as much as possible about the reversal of the magnetic field:
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ABOUT GEOMAGNETIC REVERSALS: This is a huge subject and I cannot do quick justice to it: look up in the index volume of the Britannica under: Geomagnetism, Plate tectonics, Reversals of the Earth's magnetic field.
HOW IT WAS NOTICED: When lava pours from a volcano, it solidifies to a black rock called basalt. Basalt is slightly magnetic, and it takes on the direction of the surrounding magnetic field at the time it solidifies. Scientists examined lavas for their magnetism early in this century (I believe) to see how consistent the direction of ancient magnetic fields was with the direction we observe now (would compasses point in the same direction?). The directions generally agreed, but there existed reversals of directions which suggested that there were times in the past when the poles were roughly interchanged.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
vision-master wrote:
The passing of Nibriu (red star) will take care of that.
It certainly might, because of a large gravitational change.
Actual movement of the axis of rotation of the Earth has apparently happened in the past, when there was only one landmass on the planet. This was probably before there was any significant life on the planet (if any life at all). Such a thing could happen again with an asteroid collision or passage of a large object near the Earth, but nobody will survive it to see the next era.
But don't confuse rotational change with magnetic field change! That's just silly! _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
Ludi wrote:
vision-master wrote:
The passing of Nibriu (red star) will take care of that.
It certainly might, because of a large gravitational change.
Actual movement of the axis of rotation of the Earth has apparently happened in the past, when there was only one landmass on the planet. This was probably before there was any significant life on the planet (if any life at all). Such a thing could happen again with an asteroid collision or passage of a large object near the Earth, but nobody will survive it to see the next era.
But don't confuse rotational change with magnetic field change! That's just silly!
Oh yeah! DC motor reversing can be achieved with the use of a simple changeover switch, and when wired as shown in figure 1, does exactly what it says, it changes over the polarity of the voltage when operated therefore changing the direction of the motor. http://www.distel.co.uk/DC_MOT_CON1.htm
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
But the rotation of the Earth doesn't change when the magnetic field moves! If that's what you're trying to say. The magnetic poles move, but the rotation of the Earth stays the same. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
Ludi wrote:
But the rotation of the Earth doesn't change when the magnetic field moves! If that's what you're trying to say. The magnetic poles move, but the rotation of the Earth stays the same.
Sure the magnetic field moves, but when they reverse polarity, then what? I mean, what happens when the compass points South instead of North? Yikes!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
vision-master wrote:
Sure the magnetic field moves, but when they reverse polarity, then what? I mean, what happens when the compass points South instead of North? Yikes!!!!!
People get lost a lot.... _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil - Muslim Perspective
A change in magnetic poles can occur with or without a flip in the axis of rotation. The earth is like a gyroscope and as you mentioned, an asteroid collision could easily flip the axis of rotation. There are a number of asteroids on there way within the next decade.
Other possibilities include the gradual deceleration that is occuring now or a simple flip in the axis of rotation. It is currently tipped at 23.5° and may change after global warming causing the loss of the polar ice caps.
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That's just silly!
