Would you like to increase the population of the US?
Amnesty for illegal immigrants
2%
[ 2 ]
Increase of H1B visas
2%
[ 2 ]
Open-door policy for all who want to move to the US
9%
[ 8 ]
Shut the door now on everybody
35%
[ 30 ]
Throw the illegals out
40%
[ 34 ]
Limited immigration that benefits the big business
1%
[ 1 ]
Merge the US and Mexico
9%
[ 8 ]
Total Votes : 85
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Ludi Expert
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12024 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
charliebrownout wrote:
The American Southwest has ALWAYS had a large Hispanic population.
Yep, we're "multicultural" and we better darn get used to it.
Personally, I don't have a problem with the southwest culture, even though my Spanish is virtually nonexistent. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
You do not have any problems with the violent racist and machismo culture that is not just in the SW but growing everywhere?
Ludi, I thought more of you. That statement shows some serious character faults on your part. OR your just insulated and bloated from the good upper class life that America has provided you. You obviously are not up with the times. I live in it. I live it. Enjoy the last few years of insulation.
are you still brainwashed on the old tired mantra "All of European descent besides the Spanish are racists and evil and have caused all the problems in the world?". I hope not for your sake. _________________ "Crush the Cornucopians, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the women".
Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 817 Location: The Canada of America
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
holmes wrote:
"All of European descent besides the Spanish are racists and evil and have caused all the problems in the world?"
If the shoe fits, wear it. Why are you singling out Hispanics for special consideration as "violent"? What about the Irish of NY and New England, underprivileged blacks in several US cities, OVERprivileged whites throughout most of the South? _________________ I can has cheezburger?
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
holmes wrote:
You do not have any problems with the violent racist and machismo culture that is not just in the SW but growing everywhere?
Ludi, I thought more of you. That statement shows some serious character faults on your part. OR your just insulated and bloated from the good upper class life that America has provided you. You obviously are not up with the times. I live in it. I live it. Enjoy the last few years of insulation.
are you still brainwashed on the old tired mantra "All of European descent besides the Spanish are racists and evil and have caused all the problems in the world?". I hope not for your sake.
Look at the votes. The vocal minority in this thread is just that... a vocal minority. 70% of the respondents are not on their side.
I read an article about an illegal that killed four US citizens after he committed crimes that should have resulted in his expulsion from the US, but SF shielded him from the feds. You should see the comments from that column. Even liberal San Francisco is waking up to the menace of unchecked colonization of our nation.
The widow of the family that was killed is calling on the city to remove its sanctuary status. I'm pretty sure you can find it in google news.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
Yes reality is a bitch. The hispanics are brutalizing our black populations and driving them out of their neighborhoods. Where is the outrage over this by the ones that are supposedly not racist? As a so called racist I am outraged over this invasion. The true racists are the ones that have us fooled that they are the saviors to all the races. They consider the races to be their children. Children need to be taken care of. Told what to do. Given their allowances. Their minions. Their voting block.
Most of Americans on our side.
I will never "get used to" violence, hatred and racism. The "get used to it" is an aggressive threat. I will never get used to treating woman like animals. I believe in womans suffrage. This new culture is sending us back to the stone age.
Lastly I will never get used to being stared down by foreign thugs in my own country. Ever. We do that crap in their country we get wacked. Eat lead and suck on the barrel of my gat.
But It is a fact action against these animals and their owners will only be taken when they are personally affected. before that it is all about the "cause". What a load of buffalo dung. _________________ "Crush the Cornucopians, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the women".
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12024 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
holmes wrote:
OR your just insulated and bloated from the good upper class life that America has provided you.
Yes, I'm very much insulated and bloated.
Violence in the latino population doesn't seem to get out here to the countryside. It seems to be mostly a city thing. Possibly it's lurking in the shadows, but so is white violence, possibly.
Sorry, in spite of living my entire life in states with high population of latinos, I can't manage to whip up much fear of them.
Oh well, I guess I'm just a bad character. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12024 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
holmes wrote:
This new culture is sending us back to the stone age.
The latino culture I'm talking about isn't new, it's been here for 100+ years. You seem to be talking about something else. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
nutmeg wrote:
I agree with holmes and Ayoob. The third world invasion is creating hell on earth, but it's only the symptom. Liberalism is the disease.
Very true. The sad part is that conservatism is liberalism now. The conservatives are all just liberals and RINO's. its all about religion now with conservatives. They have forsaken hard science and the scientific process. Basically taken the one thing that separates us from the animals and trashed it. _________________ "Crush the Cornucopians, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the women".
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12024 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
nutmeg wrote:
I agree with holmes and Ayoob. The third world invasion is creating hell on earth, but it's only the symptom. Liberalism is the disease.
I'm talking about the people who already live here, who have lived here for generations in the American Southwest, not about an "invasion" from somewhere else. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
Ludi wrote:
holmes wrote:
This new culture is sending us back to the stone age.
The latino culture I'm talking about isn't new, it's been here for 100+ years. You seem to be talking about something else.
Ditto that, Latinos have been here for a long time--as long, if not longer than many whites. That isn't picking a side; that's just history. Americans (particularly those with a strong nativist bent) may have always been uneasy with that fact, but it doesn't change it. The Southwest has always been largely Hispanic and influenced by Hispanic culture.
I've never been insulated from anything. I've never had that kinda money! I wish!! I was born a pleb. Like I said, I've got friends (and relations) who started out life as immigrants or anchor babies. Some of those people are good people, just like some whites are good people and some aren't. If someone kills or robs--throw them in jail or throw them out of the country. But, if they're working hard and doing right by their neighbors...I don't understand the outrage. Most of the Hispanics I know, I also really happen to like.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
Ludi wrote:
holmes wrote:
OR your just insulated and bloated from the good upper class life that America has provided you.
Yes, I'm very much insulated and bloated.
Violence in the latino population doesn't seem to get out here to the countryside. It seems to be mostly a city thing. Possibly it's lurking in the shadows, but so is white violence, possibly.
Sorry, in spite of living my entire life in states with high population of latinos, I can't manage to whip up much fear of them.
Oh well, I guess I'm just a bad character.
Yeah, I guess I need to rethink my priorities if I can't manage to be more afraid of the friendly abuelitas I meet at the park and their little nietos y bisnietos :D Maybe they're packing heat in their stroller.
I know, better watch them playing with my kids...might teach em' to turn their sand toys into a shiv or something.
Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 890 Location: As close as I can get to the beginning of the pipe.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
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"American immigration authorities play no role in these private repatriations, carried out by ambulance, air ambulance and commercial plane. Most hospitals say that they do not conduct cross-border transfers until patients are medically stable and that they arrange to deliver them into a physician’s care in their homeland. But the hospitals are operating in a void, without governmental assistance or oversight, leaving ample room for legal and ethical transgressions on both sides of the border.
Indeed, some advocates for immigrants see these repatriations as a kind of international patient dumping, with ambulances taking patients in the wrong direction, away from first-world hospitals to less-adequate care, if any."
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
Iaato wrote:
Quote:
"American immigration authorities play no role in these private repatriations, carried out by ambulance, air ambulance and commercial plane. Most hospitals say that they do not conduct cross-border transfers until patients are medically stable and that they arrange to deliver them into a physician’s care in their homeland. But the hospitals are operating in a void, without governmental assistance or oversight, leaving ample room for legal and ethical transgressions on both sides of the border.
Indeed, some advocates for immigrants see these repatriations as a kind of international patient dumping, with ambulances taking patients in the wrong direction, away from first-world hospitals to less-adequate care, if any."
Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 890 Location: As close as I can get to the beginning of the pipe.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Any Americans still pro-immigration?
No, just the opposite, Ayoob. American hospitals are dumping immigrants without insurance by renting medical transport jets and flying them out of the country. _________________ "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." --Patrick Henry
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