Israel threatens Iran (June 6)

Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1915

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Since this announcement, which coincided approximately with the JPM announcement of 150, oil is up about 10 bucks a barrel.

Any thoughts on whether this is responsible for a substantial portion of the increase?

We all agree, I think, that Israel starting a war with Iran means 200 dollar oil and instant depression.

Of course, I do agree with the article's contention that, " He stressed such an operation could only be conducted with US support."

Israel needs to drag the U.S. into it to, if for nothing else, deflect the volumes of criticism that will descend when the world's economy falls off a cliff after the pretextual bombing.
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shortonoil · Fission Joined: Dec 02, 2004 Posts: 2684 Location: VA USA

KevO said:

DantesPeak

You raise many issues, but I'll try to address only one.

Is today's price rise due to Israel? I would say mostly a qualified yes, being that it's not the threat to Iran that's the biggest problem - but to the nearby Persian Gulf in the event of war. Our experience in the 1980s Iran-Iraq war was that insurers wouldn't insure some tankers, and charged others very high prices. It took the US Navy escorting tankers to return things to normal.

The $6 price rise yesterday was mostly due to the realization that OPEC exports won't be showing up as fast in the US and Europe as expected.
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Twilight · Expert Joined: Mar 02, 2007 Posts: 2971 Location: UK

The funny thing is, the market response is so predictable that they probably would not be making those kinds of noises if they were paying the bill.
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chris-h · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 11, 2004 Posts: 447

yea we are saved
peak SUV on the road
peak cars on the roads
peak food let the fatties suffer !!!!!
will be able to buy sex slaves soon with my stored treasure and gunz on the mountains
my cave is ready for buzzinesss !!!!!!!!!!

yes Bush you are my hero lolz !!!!!!!

:SARCASM WARNING BIG SMILIE:
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Twilight · Expert Joined: Mar 02, 2007 Posts: 2971 Location: UK

Where is billp? He should have urged a calm resolution of these unfortunate matters by now.
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emersonbiggins

GeoJAP

I certainly am no fan of Israel, but don't forget that just a few days ago Ahmadinejad said that Israel would "soon disappear".

They are all nucking futs and their rhetoric is becoming increasingly inflammatory and inflexible.

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Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1915

WyoDutch · Last edited by WyoDutch on Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:14 pm; edited 1 time in total

Admiral Thomas Moorer (former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) summed-up the Israeli-influence better than anyone else has... before or since...

"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to the Israelis. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."

Lest we forget... here's a photo of the USS Liberty after our Israeli friends strafed, bombed and torpedoed it on June 8, 1967, killing 34 American sailors.

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft over flights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship nine hours before the attack by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40 Million Dollar state of the art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.

Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.

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