Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: Obama backs Israel uber alles
So that's that. McCain sings he'll bomb Iran and Obama loves Israel.
What is it with the US and Israel? Can somebody explain?
Quote:
In his first foreign policy speech after clinching the Democratic nomination for president, Sen. Barack Obama vowed that as president he would deepen American defense cooperation with Israel.
“Those who threaten Israel, threaten us. I will bring an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security and guarantee Israel’s military strength so that it can defend itself from any threat – from Gaza to Tehran.
“I will do everything in my power – everything, everything - to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” he said, starting with diplomacy but not taking the military option off the table.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
Obama and Hillary both went to Bilderburg this year. Which is illegal under the logan act because they aren't not allowed to meet in secret with representatives from foreign governments. But oh well, government officials clearly are above the law. See Bush. lol.
It's farking amazing that the press 'somehow' has managed to escape the fact that like 100 of the worlds most powerful people have got together and decided policy in secret every year for the past 50 years. But now that people are waking up, and they are getting so much attention .. lol this year they have actually released a press release lol ..
Check out the video on this page when the press realise that hes gone off to this secret meeting. They aren't told until they are basically on the run way to the meeting.
These 3 presidential puppets all basically have the same agenda. The illusion of choice.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
He's probably pandering to AIPAC. Most candidates are simply afraid of the damage which AIPAC can do to their campaigns, so they have to at least pay lip service to their agenda.
The Justice Department needs to take a serious look at the activities of this lobby, which seem to go well beyond promoting US-Israeli friendship.
The Bilderbergs always try to co-opt all possible winners of elections, they also need to be investigated but that probably will never happen.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
KevO, you're too smart to ask the question.
Most Jews are pro-Israel in a huge way.
Jews occupy powerful positions of ownership and so on in media, law, education, and politics.
Obama is truly a Jewish nightmare. He's got a muslim name. He seems dedicated to non-violent solutions. He seems to want to talk to Israel's enemies.
Off the top of my head . . .
Benjamin Shalom Bernanke (yes that's really his middle name) is Jewish, as are five of five Fed governors.
Many of Bush's cabinet are Jewish.
All but one Ivy league president is Jewish.
All major media are owned in part or in whole by Jews.
KevO, if you asked the question seriously, you really are young. How nice.
I remember growing up in a loving, open home with no prejudices. I was so pure, I didn't even know that our neighbors were Jews! They were just neighbors.
They you get old. You start to see the patterns. The same tired headlines. The same tired inside games being played. The same players pulling the strings.
Obama has two choices . . .
kow tow to Israel or
leave earth early.
Israel's takeover and ethnic cleansing at the start of Israel was brutal and without mercy. The current treatment of Palistinians is brutal and without mercy. The use of cluster bombs and the murder of civilians in Lebanon was brutal and without mercy.
If Israel is presented with these two options:
1. Allow a U.S. president to prevent an attack on Iran and weaken Israel's position, or
2. Remove the president,
then it should be obvious what happens. Brutal and without mercy. That's the nature of racism. That's the nature of Israel. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
dukey wrote:
Obama and Hillary both went to Bilderburg this year. Which is illegal under the logan act because they aren't not allowed to meet in secret with representatives from foreign governments. But oh well, government officials clearly are above the law. See Bush. lol.
This is pure speculation. Both camps confirm they were at Dianne Feinstein's house, which obviously is not the Bilderburg meeting location. Feinstein confirmed this as well. Is it possible they're all lying and went to Bilderburg instead? Sure. But there is no evidence to suggest it either.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
Quote:
Obama backs Israel uber alles
Of course he does. You don't get to sit in the big chair until you've bruised your knees at AIPAC's feet. _________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
Cashmere wrote:
KevO, you're too smart to ask the question.
Most Jews are pro-Israel in a huge way.
Jews occupy powerful positions of ownership and so on in media, law, education, and politics.
Obama is truly a Jewish nightmare. He's got a muslim name. He seems dedicated to non-violent solutions. He seems to want to talk to Israel's enemies.
Off the top of my head . . .
Benjamin Shalom Bernanke (yes that's really his middle name) is Jewish, as are five of five Fed governors.
Many of Bush's cabinet are Jewish.
All but one Ivy league president is Jewish.
All major media are owned in part or in whole by Jews.
KevO, if you asked the question seriously, you really are young. How nice.
I remember growing up in a loving, open home with no prejudices. I was so pure, I didn't even know that our neighbors were Jews! They were just neighbors.
They you get old. You start to see the patterns. The same tired headlines. The same tired inside games being played. The same players pulling the strings.
Obama has two choices . . .
kow tow to Israel or
leave earth early.
Israel's takeover and ethnic cleansing at the start of Israel was brutal and without mercy. The current treatment of Palistinians is brutal and without mercy. The use of cluster bombs and the murder of civilians in Lebanon was brutal and without mercy.
If Israel is presented with these two options:
1. Allow a U.S. president to prevent an attack on Iran and weaken Israel's position, or
2. Remove the president,
then it should be obvious what happens. Brutal and without mercy. That's the nature of racism. That's the nature of Israel.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
vision-master wrote:
Cashmere wrote:
KevO, you're too smart to ask the question.
Most Jews are pro-Israel in a huge way.
Jews occupy powerful positions of ownership and so on in media, law, education, and politics.
Obama is truly a Jewish nightmare. He's got a muslim name. He seems dedicated to non-violent solutions. He seems to want to talk to Israel's enemies.
Off the top of my head . . .
Benjamin Shalom Bernanke (yes that's really his middle name) is Jewish, as are five of five Fed governors.
Many of Bush's cabinet are Jewish.
All but one Ivy league president is Jewish.
All major media are owned in part or in whole by Jews.
KevO, if you asked the question seriously, you really are young. How nice.
I remember growing up in a loving, open home with no prejudices. I was so pure, I didn't even know that our neighbors were Jews! They were just neighbors.
They you get old. You start to see the patterns. The same tired headlines. The same tired inside games being played. The same players pulling the strings.
Obama has two choices . . .
kow tow to Israel or
leave earth early.
Israel's takeover and ethnic cleansing at the start of Israel was brutal and without mercy. The current treatment of Palistinians is brutal and without mercy. The use of cluster bombs and the murder of civilians in Lebanon was brutal and without mercy.
If Israel is presented with these two options:
1. Allow a U.S. president to prevent an attack on Iran and weaken Israel's position, or
2. Remove the president,
then it should be obvious what happens. Brutal and without mercy. That's the nature of racism. That's the nature of Israel.
Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 1320 Location: Somewhere there
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
KevO wrote:
vision-master wrote:
Cashmere wrote:
KevO, you're too smart to ask the question.
Most Jews are pro-Israel in a huge way.
Jews occupy powerful positions of ownership and so on in media, law, education, and politics.
Obama is truly a Jewish nightmare. He's got a muslim name. He seems dedicated to non-violent solutions. He seems to want to talk to Israel's enemies.
Off the top of my head . . .
Benjamin Shalom Bernanke (yes that's really his middle name) is Jewish, as are five of five Fed governors.
Many of Bush's cabinet are Jewish.
All but one Ivy league president is Jewish.
All major media are owned in part or in whole by Jews.
KevO, if you asked the question seriously, you really are young. How nice.
I remember growing up in a loving, open home with no prejudices. I was so pure, I didn't even know that our neighbors were Jews! They were just neighbors.
They you get old. You start to see the patterns. The same tired headlines. The same tired inside games being played. The same players pulling the strings.
Obama has two choices . . .
kow tow to Israel or
leave earth early.
Israel's takeover and ethnic cleansing at the start of Israel was brutal and without mercy. The current treatment of Palistinians is brutal and without mercy. The use of cluster bombs and the murder of civilians in Lebanon was brutal and without mercy.
If Israel is presented with these two options:
1. Allow a U.S. president to prevent an attack on Iran and weaken Israel's position, or
2. Remove the president,
then it should be obvious what happens. Brutal and without mercy. That's the nature of racism. That's the nature of Israel.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
Could it really be that Obamas nomination as the democratic candidate came as a slight surprise to the bilderbergers etc.? That he wasn't already a complete pawn of theirs? Of course he couldn't have been all that clean either seeing as how far he has already got himself. Lots of israeli/bilderberg money already placed behind him. But I remember myself thinking that he could never win against hillary who of course was already a prospect for the men behind the curtain...
Could "they" really have waited till this late stage to tie him in onto all their clubs, bilderberg, CFR, so forth? Maybe. If so, seems like the guys are not ontop of their game at the moment.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
they created the rules of the game actually, so its a bit incorrect question. They will never let anyone run for the presidency unless he is a Borg of all those Bergs and Steins. The whole system is a farce. They don't even care who will win.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
Pretorian wrote:
they created the rules of the game actually, so its a bit incorrect question. They will never let anyone run for the presidency unless he is a Borg of all those Bergs and Steins. The whole system is a farce. They don't even care who will win.
You are being a bit too bold here, Im afraid. They need absolute control over the public puppet show at white house. To establish and maintain this they have created a farcical system and a show, yes, but if it was only a completely irrelevant puppet show, I must say that I think it would be staged in a far more media-sexy, extravagant way.
They know how to sell people irrelevant products that people buy because subconciously they have been led to believe the product in question will give them meaning, purpose, sex-appeal, whatever. If the presidency show was only an act of puppetry, I think the process of (s)election would have been staged in a way that would appeal more to the modern man. If faced with a political debate even the intellectual average joe is inclined to switch channels and not care.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
phaeryen wrote:
If the presidency show was only an act of puppetry, I think the process of (s)election would have been staged in a way that would appeal more to the modern man.
Why, to give a some sort of an entertainment for the goyims? Why bother? It doesnt matter who will win. May be this time Obama was winning just because one of their agendas is to promote mongrelisation worldwide. What can be a better seller than a mongrel running for a Presidency?? What can be a better seller than a mongrel as a President of US, nominally the most powerful man on Earth?
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
KevO wrote:
So that's that. McCain sings he'll bomb Iran and Obama loves Israel.
What is it with the US and Israel? Can somebody explain?
I think every nation should be allowed to have 1 stupid foreign policy commitment that makes no damn sense. For the USA it would definitely be the "special" relationship it has with Israel.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Obama backs Israel uber alles
I'm always annoyed by the Israel stories -- it seems to bring out so much latent racism. We've got Praetorian obviously at odds with people having relationships outside their skin color, and somebody else going through the list of Jews own this, and Jews own that, and blah blah blah, "what do you expect?"
I'm Jewish -- I wonder what I did wrong because every day I wake up, I'm not in control of the world or a major corporation or some political big wig. It's my birthright apparently, but all the other Jews I know are just regular people too.
By the same token, how many political heads of state have there been in the last 50 years in N. America or Europe who were Jewish? I don't know the answer but I'd bet if it isn't a non-zero number, it's a very small one. <sarcasm>Evidently, there is a vast Christian conspiracy to control the governments of the west!</sarcasm>
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