John McCain will not win election

energyfight · Tar Sands Joined: Jan 07, 2007 Posts: 21

Well, this article looks like good news.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080615/pl_politico/11090

Despite that I was a republican and voted for Bush in 2000, it took peak oil and the last 7-8 years to move me to the democratic party.

Barack Obama has one heck of a mess. Not only by Bush, but also a mess from both the republican and Democratic parties, and also from decades of poor American urban planning, lost jobs, depleted resources, debts, and so forth.

But unfortunately, Obama will paddle his rear end off, he will be like Gorbachev, handed a mess that he did not create and when his term(s) are up, everyone will be angry that he did not deliver cheap energy, more shopping malls, more credit cards, more equity in my ATM house and no more suvs.

TommyJefferson

I agree with you post, but it really doesn't belong in the "environment" forum.
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Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1485

You went from Republican to Democrat?

I'd call that going from one heap o dung to another.

Your next step will be figuring out that Dems=Reps

Once you see that, the magnitude of the problem is more apparent.

I ask every Card Carry Democrat I meet - "so what has your Democratic Congress done in the last couple of years?"

Never any answer other than, "Well Bush prevents . . . ".

This, despite the fact that every CCD was convinced that the new Democratic Congress would . . .

1. End the War.
2. Balance the Budget.
3. Institute Universal Healthcare.

So when they tell me they need the White House too, I ask -

Ok, so what will be different 1 year after your man gets in?

Hmm?

They all give a blank look, like they know that the answer is - "not a f--ing thing" - but they haven't gotten to the point yet where they're willing to admit that their chosen party is as much of the problem as the other party.

Yikes.
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Cid_Yama

Moderator,

Please move to appropriate section.
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energyfight · Tar Sands Joined: Jan 07, 2007 Posts: 21

First, I did not chose the right TOPIC, sorry for that...

Cashemer,

Looks like we agree on many things, however, I look at things in a more global perspective... I like Ron Paul because of his foreign policy stance, I agree the US only has one party with two departments. Not much better than living in a communist nation which typically have one party...

At the end of your last post you asked what will be one year after he takes the office?

My answer: this will take decades to fix, maybe generations. But here we go again, the typical American will demand instant gratification... If I drank 1 bottle of vodka every day for 30 years why should I expect to look my age if I quit drinking for just one year? And chances are, crap will get worse even while Obama is in office because of the inertia of this mess. And forget energy prices, just for a moment and focus on US housing, debt, lost jobs, healthcare, and think, when other nations dealt with such pile of problems, that at least they did it in a world of CHEAP energy... Obama will try to fix or mitigate this as energy prices climb for decades...

America keeps searching for that holly grail, that instant gratification, that silver bullet that will fix it all and deliver 365 days of Christmas.

Obama will be the nurse that helps us contract our energy consumption or help America die gracefully... If Obama stays for two terms, we should be grateful to simply see hope at the end of 8 years. For once, when Americans yammer about leaving something to the next generation besides debts and empty resources, fix this and give America some friggen future.

In Jan of 2009, as Obama walks into his new office, airs out the Bush stench in the Whitehouse, sorry, oil prices will not automatically drop 90% nor will there be rainbows like Bush said he saw in Romania.

Heineken

I'm rooting for McCain.

For one thing, I bet someone $50 that he'd win.

For another, I enjoy watching the GOP get bashed for problems that are now too big for anyone to solve.
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Fishman

Thats why I'm rooting for Obama. Carter rehashed, gives us 5/7 more Republican Administrations like Carter did!

Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1485

Hein- McCain, IMO, bombs Iran and brings about the end of modern civ - I'd prefer to have a few more years before the hard hard crashing.

OP -

Obama won't change anything, and he won't try to change anything.

He has already said he'd . . .

Give money to unemployed.
Raise taxes.
Ban guns.
NOT bring the troops home immediately.
Leave using force on the table vs. Iran.

In sum, it's Bush with a Black face and a much better command of English.

Come on OP, you're being a cornucopian.

How the hell is Obama going to solve or start to solve or lay the groundwork for solving ANYTHING when you have not yet heard him say . . .

Peak Oil

OR

Overpopulation/Overshoot?

Lacking that, it's just a sad joke.
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Dukat_Reloaded · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 1005

Don't forget he also is planning free medicine for all correct?
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RonMN

OK, That's enough...

I'm running for president now!

I'll run on a PO platform but what will really win me the election is the promise of cutting all taxes on tobacco & booze.

Just remember my campaign slogan...

"Ron IS GREAT in 2008" Laughing

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heroineworshipper

After today's report on CEO raises coming dangerously close to lagging inflation, the vote will definitely go to Ubama. Executive compensation isn't rising fast enough, & if our leaders lose money we all feel poor. We need to make the rich richer to feel rich, create the welfare programs to fund their real estate investments, nationalize their defaulting banks.

Workers have been robbing the rich for too long by paying rent & getting steady paychecks while the rich lose money on investments. We need to force people to buy houses through a communal system & insure risk takers from all loses. That is definitely not a republican agenda.
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joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 652

Honestly, if Obama wins, then the American ppl will get what they deserve for not listening to what he is saying. MORE TAXES dumbasses.

Cant you hear it when he says it.? MORE means less for YOU and me. THINK ppl

johhnytrash · Coal Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 17

Tyler_JC

(the poster was being sarcastic but the lack of tone/pitch on web forums can sometimes make that hard to detect)
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