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americandream
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 Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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| btu2012 wrote: | | americandream wrote: | | Incidentally, I am a bloke. |
Are you sure ?
I am not a conservative and I am aware of the role played by coltan.
Anyway, you need psychotherapy. Get a grip of yourself and stop playing the victim of capitalism. You were most likely victimized by something or someone else.
By the way, those who died in the Gulag were also people. |
In the true spirit of dog assed conservative politics, you insist on personalising this exchange. Whether I am in need of psychotherapy, am a gay militant born again christian marxist feminist male chauvinist pig or what ever other bizarre formulation you dream up, the fact of the matter is that you sit here with your bleeding heart liberal nonsense tut tutting affectionately at the comments of conservative types and 3 million have actually died...you know...really died, expired, gone up to the big big mac in the sky in coltan rich Congo so that you may continue to parade these bourgeoisie flights of fancy.
Nothing was ever achieved by wishful thinking other than the preservation of the status quo which sits quite comfortably with lentil munching pseudo lefties I should imagine. I don't know which is the more repulsive....the conservative (haha...what the heck are these idiots conserving incidentally)...or its travelling companion, the empty handed teeth gnashing trendy liberal tree hugging lentil eating sandal wearing closet fascist.
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btu2012
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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Yeah miss Dream,
The hundreds of millions killed by communism mean nothing. Only the left wing dead mean anything to you. How sick is that. ?
Stop pretending that you care about the Congo. Even been there, by the way ? Are you doing anything to help out with that ?
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americandream
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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| btu2012 wrote: | Yeah miss Dream,
The hundreds of millions killed by communism mean nothing. Only the left wing dead mean anything to you. How sick is that. ?
Stop pretending that you care about the Congo. Even been there, by the way ? Are you doing anything to help out with that ? |
Once again, its MR Dream, lady.
Now, lets get to the hundreds of millions.
Where did you glean this? The capitalist press. The very press that told you that Saddam had WMD's before launching a war that has since cost at least a million lives. The same press that peddles you the fantasies about Darfur while the Chinese and the West squabble over its oil...which incidentally is the sweetest of sweet crudes.
If you are going to recount the facts of history to me my well duped friend, I suggest that you make the very difficult journey of learning something about the power of your master.
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btu2012
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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Can someone get this troll out of here ?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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| btu2012 wrote: | | Can someone get this troll out of here ? |
Oh, and you now seek to silence me! I have you cornered and YOU know it!
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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Incidentally, I'm done with you. So bye bye and keep taking the oil, coltan, and other goodies.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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Good riddance.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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| btu2012 wrote: | | Good riddance. |
Like I said, a closet fascist.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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Good riddance.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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| btu2012 wrote: | | Good riddance. |
Yawn...can't take robust democratic exchange can we my matey! Head in sand syndrome ail thee?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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Good riddance there again. 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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[quote="btu2012"]Good riddance there again. [/quote
Err.....anyone ever tell you, you're a meany?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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Can't give up, can you ?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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| I wonder about torture.If someone ever seriously hurt someone I cared about, without just cause and ENJOYED it, I'd kill them. I wouldn't equivocate, reflect, or ponder. The person would be dispatched very quickly. I may even enjoy killing them, like I was fulfilling a moral imperative. If for some reason, I was unable to kill them, I would have to punch them until my arms hurt. But actual torture? I don't think so. |
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btu2012
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: The true dimensions of pain |
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I agree with you threadbear. Torture is never justified.
However killing is sometimes justified, for example in self-defense.
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