For a minute there I thought I had to get off my couch, when all the while the fact is we don't have to do anything much but keep things afloat for just a few decades more! In fact, we'd best shut up about PO, because if our offspring finds out we knew about it all along, they'll turn and wring our necks come 2036!
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Hopi Prophecy - Effects of Peak Oil (The Hopi Survival K
By the way - I imagine that VisionMaster already knows this, but for others - there are 3 Hopi prophecies chanted in the movie Koyaanisquatsi:
* "If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster."
* "Near the day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky."
* "A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans."
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Hopi Prophecy - Effects of Peak Oil (The Hopi Survival K
Wow, the amazon critics mostly panned this book though. I'm particularly concerned about this one:
Quote:
I read this book in preparation for a three and a half day trip to Hopiland a couple of years ago. What an eye-opening surprise. Thomas Mails has an awkward, rushed quality to his text, but I forgave him for stylistic rough spots in light of the urgency of his message that Hopi prophecy must come to light. How do the Hopi respond? With groans. With anger and resentment. I spoke to at least a dozen Hopi, all of whom consider Mails an intruder, one who invaded their culture and plundered it for his own profit and professional advancement. 'There's a pattern to what he does,' they pointed out. 'Mails finds a so-called 'last living repository' of traditional wisdom, interviews him and presents this material as speaking for the whole tribe.' Dan Evahema is one, and there are others who have been the sources of Mails' wanderings. Dan Evahema did not hold a position of authority among the Hopi; he just happened to be available for the interview. There are clan distinction which Mails does not recognize in his book which mean quite a lot to the Hopi, who in fact don't wish these clan distinctions to be anybody else's reading material in the first place. I wasn't prepared for the thoroughly disgusted reaction to this book among every single Hopi I met. 'Nuff said. It reminds me of Vine DeLoria's point at the end of chapter one of _Custer Died For Your Sins_, in which he says he would like to see a cultural leave-us-alone treaty.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Hopi Prophecy - Effects of Peak Oil (The Hopi Survival K
Koyaanisqatsi wrote:
Wow, the amazon critics mostly panned this book though. I'm particularly concerned about this one:
Quote:
I read this book in preparation for a three and a half day trip to Hopiland a couple of years ago. What an eye-opening surprise. Thomas Mails has an awkward, rushed quality to his text, but I forgave him for stylistic rough spots in light of the urgency of his message that Hopi prophecy must come to light. How do the Hopi respond? With groans. With anger and resentment. I spoke to at least a dozen Hopi, all of whom consider Mails an intruder, one who invaded their culture and plundered it for his own profit and professional advancement. 'There's a pattern to what he does,' they pointed out. 'Mails finds a so-called 'last living repository' of traditional wisdom, interviews him and presents this material as speaking for the whole tribe.' Dan Evahema is one, and there are others who have been the sources of Mails' wanderings. Dan Evahema did not hold a position of authority among the Hopi; he just happened to be available for the interview. There are clan distinction which Mails does not recognize in his book which mean quite a lot to the Hopi, who in fact don't wish these clan distinctions to be anybody else's reading material in the first place. I wasn't prepared for the thoroughly disgusted reaction to this book among every single Hopi I met. 'Nuff said. It reminds me of Vine DeLoria's point at the end of chapter one of _Custer Died For Your Sins_, in which he says he would like to see a cultural leave-us-alone treaty.
Maybe some people here can balance it with a few good reviews!
Comment to review...........
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D. M. Taibi says:
I knew Grandfather Dan when I lived in Arizona. Although I am Lakota and Metis, I consider him to be one of my greatest mentors for his genuine clarity and lack of bias. This review is just ludicrous, a statement from someone who is not an American Indian who has not lived with, or talked to, the principals in this issue. Walk a mile in my moccasins, A Customer!
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