How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Five short videos from TOD...
Well worth the time. _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Five short videos from TOD...
Thanks for posting....yup, we already know this stuff, but you gotta hit the masses over the head with it. Even then, I am not sure they will get it until people start going hungry....hunger might just wakem' up.
catbox _________________ President Bush: “There’s no question about it. Wall Street got drunk—that’s one of the reasons I asked you to turn off the TV cameras. It got drunk, and now it’s got a hangover."
Joined: Nov 27, 2004 Posts: 174 Location: Federal City, USA
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Five short videos from TOD...
Thanks, roccman. Reading some of the other threads around here lately has gotten me down on trying to inform people about the effects of resource depletion and climate change, etc. Many claim it just won't work. But I think there are enough people who will 'get it' that it's worth it to point people in the direction of short, simple clips like these. _________________ Business as usual is about to get unusual.
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 811 Location: Tustin, CA
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Five short videos from TOD...
roccman, Great Posts! "I Drink Your Milkshake"-Daniel Day Lewis!! _________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan
Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 3828 Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Five short videos from TOD...
The Hopi Survival Kit - Chapter 6 - Prophecies Past and Present - Page 207/ 208.
Hopi Elders Quote:
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Let us take a look into the future through the eyes of our prophets. They say that along the way the industrialized world will have certain problems. Throughout the world people will be uncomfortable because of the changing times. The worldly woes people will be going through. People will have to make adjustments to fit themselves into new life styles and environments.
The industrialized nations will become careless in getting more of the resources they need out of the earth, oil, coal, etc. Believing all these things will last forever. Soon natural resources will be depleted. Fuel shortages will occur; industrial machinery will come to a standstill. The machinery used for planting, harvesting and transport will become useless. The white man (Bahanna) with all his intelligence and technology will not be able to repair the damage.
Now let us review our knowledge briefly, the centuries old prophecies which warned us what would happen when we forgot the principles of right and wrong in our behavior. We will see extraordinary events in Nature and Earth, including mankind: because modern man ignores the wisdom of ancient culture and religion. Modern man looks upon old wisdom and knowledge as dead, useless and no longer respected.
Modern man began to depend on the money system and no longer Mother Earth for food. According to prophecy when this happens Mother Earth will hide the nourishment which she provides because of the view that ancient food is poor man’s food.
When all food disappears modern man will try to correct his mistake, the conditions he caused upon the earth through his inventions. He will try to achieve some kind of method to heal the wound, but this will not be possible when we reach the point of no return.
Only through peace the survival of mankind and our planet Earth is possible. Only if we, the human race, are willing to change.
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 11854 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Five short videos from TOD...
Duende wrote:
But I think there are enough people who will 'get it' that it's worth it to point people in the direction of short, simple clips like these.
There's little point in them "getting it" if they aren't offered alternative models for how they could be living. There's little point in lecturing people about resource depletion and environmental damage if we aren't willing to walk the talk. Look at how much credibility Al Gore loses with some people because of his lifestyle.
We need to be the change we want to see; we can't wait for everyone else to "get it" first. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
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