Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
Some times I fear it, sometimes I feel eerily peaceful about it, and sometimes I both fear it and feel eerily peaceful about it.
I think what really adds to the fear is the sheer incomprehensibility (especially from an emotional pov) of going unconscious and then never waking up ever again.
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
#4
How one feels about it is irrelevant. _________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain."
-Friedrich von Schiller
"What I try, may not work. It may be ineffective. It might even turn out in the pages of history to be the exact wrong thing to do, but I'm going to try to do what I c
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
Honestly...scares the hell out of me. Pain doesn't scare me. Being uncomfortable as I die, doesn't scare me. Being dead scares me. Actually, it's not being dead that scares me. It's the absence of being alive that scares me. I like being alive. It's really a cool experience. I think it's absolutely intriguing to watch it all unfold. Life feels to me like 100 pages out of the middle of a novel. If you study hard, you can deduce some of what went on towards the front of the book. The ending, that's complete unknown. I don't like the concept that I'll never know how so many things turned out.
Also I'm a pretty cerebral person. Learning new stuff is a big defining aspect of how I see myself. The idea that all that stuff that I spent so much time learning, in the end it's gonna be nothing more than a snack for some earthworms. That's a pretty hard idea for me to stomach. _________________ "I was born in a deep forest
I wish I could live here all my life
I am made from stones and roots
My home, these woods and roads
All my life I loved this sound
Of the woods all around
Eagles fly where the winds blow free" -Korpiklaani
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
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anybody seen that video about a brain doctor who has a stroke and could have died?
everybody I mention it too has seen it.
she made dying, having a stroke seem very pleasant.
I went to youtube and searched but found nothing. Could you provide a link?
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
I'm not afraid of death, i'd be sad if i'd die 'young', but no fear. I'm more afraid of becoming handicapped in some way, paralysed for example, than death. I'm not sure how i feel about it in the future but right now i'd rather be dead than handicapped which restricts my movement and freedom.
Sure i like being alive, life's good for me right now, and i'm certainly not suicidal, far from it. But why fear something that's inevitable? I don't know what 'is' for me after my death, therefor the only thing that makes sense is to not fear it. I don't fear the unknown. _________________ The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
killJOY wrote:
Just yesterday...
I was carrying our brand new calf from the field where it was born back to the barn. As I was passing the grave of our old horse, which we had put down a month ago, I noticed movement--
I poked with a stick--
There was this liquid bubbling, and a vile smell. Flies.
I came back later and noticed a huge sinkhole, with a hurricane of flies coming out of it. The horse carcass was boiling in the heat. It was awful.
I dumped a can of lime into the hole and then raked dirt into it to stop the smell.
"That's me," I thought.
I hate it.
I had the experience a few years ago of watching my dad deteriorate and then succumb to cancer. My relationship with him was easily the closest I am likely ever to have with another person. He died at home and I sat with his body for a while until the funeral home came to pick it up. You learn a lot during times like that. Whatever happens after death (and it may be that nothing happens, I don't know), the body is truly just a shell. All of the beauty of life is the way in which we animate our flesh, it's not the flesh itself.
For me, it was a humbling but strangely refreshing insight.
Smallpoxgirl, as a physician, I assume you've spent plenty of time around dead bodies and have watched people pass away. Have you learned anything that you didn't already know from seeing that process up close?
The thing that I always think is sad is when a person is ill and his/her loved ones do not realize that it's terminal and when the person dies it's especially jarring to the family. I talked to my dad's oncologists a lot while he was ill, and I could tell that they were glad that I knew the score so that when it came time to have the unpleasant conversations what the doctors had to say didn't come as a complete shock. _________________
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
I am not scared of dying, I am sick of being told the way in which I will die by the British Gov't.
Thier unhealthy obsession with making people live longer only adds to the annoyance. In a radio show called The Now Show on BBC Radio 4 Good British Comedy
they comment that after WWII life expectancy was 68 yrs and the occurence of cancer was 18%, today life expectancy is 78 years and cancer rates are 36%, so we now live longer just to catch cancer.
They want us to live longer so that we can live in poverty in our dotage, now that's logic.
The most unbelievable manifestation of death avoidance is the Health and Safety Executive, due to litigation prevention and ensuring that no one comes to any harm doing anything there are now risk assessments for everything.
example: I was putting some archive boxes onto the top shelf of a filing cabinet by....shock, horror.....lifting the box over my head and putting it on the shelf. The HSE nazi at work, 'spotted' me doing this and I was summoned to attend, LADDER USE TRAINING!!
I then had to sit through a 30 minute training 'workshop' on how to file archive boxes on the top shelf using a ladder. I was instructed to use both hands to climb the ladder until I reached the top, stable platform.
Question, How do I carry the box AND climb the ladder with both hands holding on for safety?
Question, I am 6'2" the top of the Filing cabinet is 6'10", the ceilng is 7'6", the ladder is 3' to the top stable platform?
Answer, just sign the form to say that you were trained, OK!
Read, you cant sue us if you dont use the facilities provided, you were 'trained'.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
The Ocean Planet is a wet space rock infested with an organic redox scum we call "life." We are part of that scum. Anything that can be characterized by autocatalysis & self-replication can be considered to be "alive." Selection occurs inexorably because self-replication is never perfect. Elements of low atomic mass (Fe is an exception) cycle thru the biogeochemosphere on various periods, various dwell times in the biosphere, lithosphere, hydrosphere, atmosphere... Some would consider the planet itself to be "alive." Is the xylem of a tree alive? Is your hair, mineral bone, keratinized epidermis... alive? How about a given carbon atom in a functional enzyme - is it "alive." What about that same carbon atom after you rot & it becomes carbon dioxide? We are dying continuously. Apoptosis or "programmed cell death" begins in the early embryo. Cells are dying by the billions in your bodies right now. What even is this thing called "you," that you may/may not be afraid of it dying? Is it the mere purveyor of your ancestors' genes or is it something "special"? How do you know? This thread is stupid.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
darwinsdog wrote:
The Ocean Planet is a wet space rock infested with an organic redox scum we call "life." We are part of that scum. Anything that can be characterized by autocatalysis & self-replication can be considered to be "alive." Selection occurs inexorably because self-replication is never perfect. Elements of low atomic mass (Fe is an exception) cycle thru the biogeochemosphere on various periods, various dwell times in the biosphere, lithosphere, hydrosphere, atmosphere... Some would consider the planet itself to be "alive." Is the xylem of a tree alive? Is your hair, mineral bone, keratinized epidermis... alive? How about a given carbon atom in a functional enzyme - is it "alive." What about that same carbon atom after you rot & it becomes carbon dioxide? We are dying continuously. Apoptosis or "programmed cell death" begins in the early embryo. Cells are dying by the billions in your bodies right now. What even is this thing called "you," that you may/may not be afraid of it dying? Is it the mere purveyor of your ancestors' genes or is it something "special"? How do you know? This thread is stupid.
Only the intelligent will ponder death. The dumbed down peeple will just go on with "ignorance is bliss", untill they meet their painful exit from the body. Yes, the material body is always dying, and the spirit soul remains constant, because it is spiritual in nature. It lives on eternally.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
Precipice wrote:
Some times I fear it, sometimes I feel eerily peaceful about it, and sometimes I both fear it and feel eerily peaceful about it.
I think what really adds to the fear is the sheer incomprehensibility (especially from an emotional pov) of going unconscious and then never waking up ever again.
This explains my thought processes on it fairly well. I often find myself very contemplative of:
how I'll die
will I be afraid
will it hurt
what will come after
will anything come after
Will I have a consciousness
will I get to come back
Then I think, well whatever is going to happen, shall, and I can't change it one bit. For certain I will die, and the world will continue as it did before I was here. I don't have a recollection of suckiness before I was born so...
I live my life as best I can, try to enjoy it, plan to stick around as long as I can; and hope, in the end, I die well.
Olaf _________________ "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived." - Henry David Thoreau
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Death, how do you feel about it?
I chose #3
I think we're all infinate beings temporarily trapped in this world because we went down a bad path. _________________ Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destory health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality.
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