Simmons really IS a doomer

mos6507 · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Simmons really IS a doomer

From the link off the main page:

http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&story_id=11702995

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BigTex · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

He's got a blurb on the back of the latest edition of "Limits to Growth."

He knows what the future looks like.

Thanks for the link.
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gnm · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

Bas · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

In the Economist, Great!

Matthew you're leading by example which is much better than leading by instilling fear, good on ya!
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Kingcoal · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

Simmons is our Prophet and we heed his words.
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kpeavey · Expert Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 1259

To understand Peak Oil is to be a doomer.

Petroleum is the foundation upon which modern civilization rests. Take it away, what remains?

I think I should look for land near Mt Battie. At least I'll be in good company.
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Plantagenet · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

Simmons just scared the hell out of me.

I'm revising my plan.

Simmons is talking about a 7 year time frame to an economic valhalla. The crap is going to hit the fan sooner then I feared.

Darn darn darn. Shocked

SILENTTODD · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

Actually I've always thought of him as being quite optimistic given the circumstances.

I compare him to Physicist David Goodstein, author of ‘Out of Gas: The End of the Oil Age’ -There is an engineering solution to every problem; But you’d better start NOW!
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DoomWarrior · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

A doomstead in Maine. Probably a good choice if you can find alternative heating sources.

3aidlillahi · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

I'm wondering why he JUST started to plan for his farm in Maine. Did he not see this coming? Wasn't he always saying "The peak is just around the corner"? Seems like he should've already had his little bunker set up long time ago. What took him so long?

Meh, good for him. I hope he has a chance to get everything squared away before it gets too messy, that's all.
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TonyPrep · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

A lot of his presentations and interviews, up to sometime last year, showed him as an optimist. He'd previously thought (and maybe still does) that human ingenuity was capable of figuring out a "solution". But that would require an early awareness of the problem. I don't think he sees any signs that the awareness is there or likely to be there, and no signs that the research and development needed is being done.

So he's turned into a doomer because of inaction, not necessarily because he can't see a way out.

I've never agreed with his optimism, but it seems that has all but evaporated in him, and I noticed it starting last year.

DoomWarrior · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

mos6507 · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Simmons really IS a doomer

I do think it's important to note when major figures in this drama begin to shift their viewpoints. When we have an article that mentions Daniel Yergin building a homestead, you'll know the zombies are at the gates.
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NoahsDove · Coal Joined: Jul 06, 2008 Posts: 12

I really don't understand this "doomer" business? Fact is, the world's oil supply is running out. Simmons is just being a realist. We're very close to seeing something close to another Great Depression coming, but this time there will be noway out of it, unless there is a major break through in battery technology or fusion research getting somewhere.

One thing that I find very strange is that the politicians should be in a panic mode and drastic measures have to take shape here, but it seems like they're all afraid to tell the masses the truth. Unfortunately, this is one of the weakness with democracy. I sometimes wonder even democracy can survive. Anyway, the problem is that there is no leadership, just bunch of deers caught in headlights.

Anyone listen to Coast to Coast? Between all the UFO nuttiness, they've been very good on this issue.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2008/07/03.html