Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: I think I'm losing it...
Today seemed to be a particularly bad news day. Between Fannie. freddie, Indymac, and a new oil high, I fear that things are declining faster than I can cope.
My wife and I have plans for a transition to rural life - As fast as our finances will allow, but our plans are having trouble keeping up with the latest news.
I can't really talk to anyone around me. I have tried, but none of our friends have been directly affected by PO yet, and dismiss it as paranoia. We do know a few pseudo-doomers, but they are urban hippy flakes with unrealistic, organic back-to-the-land fantasies, and I don't trust them.
We've decided to postpone our rural prep, and sink our money money into urban prep. At least we own our own house.
We've today decided to sink our money into: Wood stove, Water Well (We know there's an old one somewhere under our house), Canning supplies, and Bow (We dislike guns).
As a new father, I want to do the best for my family, but feel I'm not in a position to do so. It makes me very sad. I tell myself that many other fathers have faced (and are facing) the same challenge, but it doesn't make me feel any better.
I really wish I had any peaker/doomer friends to talk to, but I don't... Thus this inexpensive online therapy. Oddly, I feel like crying - A very rare thing for me. I fear I've worked myself into some sort of a frenzy.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
hermit wrote:
Today seemed to be a particularly bad news day. Between Fannie. freddie, Indymac, and a new oil high, I fear that things are declining faster than I can cope.
My wife and I have plans for a transition to rural life - As fast as our finances will allow, but our plans are having trouble keeping up with the latest news.
I can't really talk to anyone around me. I have tried, but none of our friends have been directly affected by PO yet, and dismiss it as paranoia. We do know a few pseudo-doomers, but they are urban hippy flakes with unrealistic, organic back-to-the-land fantasies, and I don't trust them.
We've decided to postpone our rural prep, and sink our money money into urban prep. At least we own our own house.
We've today decided to sink our money into: Wood stove, Water Well (We know there's an old one somewhere under our house), Canning supplies, and Bow (We dislike guns).
As a new father, I want to do the best for my family, but feel I'm not in a position to do so. It makes me very sad. I tell myself that many other fathers have faced (and are facing) the same challenge, but it doesn't make me feel any better.
I really wish I had any peaker/doomer friends to talk to, but I don't... Thus this inexpensive online therapy. Oddly, I feel like crying - A very rare thing for me. I fear I've worked myself into some sort of a frenzy.
Thanks for listening...
you havent mentioned specifically your concerns so am only answering generally ...and although im a hippie ...im also a realist ...and since recent revelations with economics and enviroment ...many will have to learn to adjust to unusual upcoming circumstances (and i would also suggest people be tactful in their communications in this thread)
i do not see any of this as "doomsday" at all though if thats any help ...im not saying its gonna be a walk in the park but things will pan out again eventually ...although its hard to rationalize during all this ...it is now that its even more essential for people to keep clear heads and concentrate on what you can change rather than the things you cant ...and then just accept it ....You will drive yourself crazy thinking of ALL the possibilies and what ifs so disregarding the "impossible" is essential to keeping your sanity I think lol ... _________________ -----------------------------------------------------------
Control your destiny or somebody else will.
-Jack Welch
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
hermit, I can tell from your words that you are a caring and committed person. You place the needs of your family above your own. Tomorrow you will drag yourself out of your bed and do the best you can to make things happen. You won't give up, or run away, you will carry on. Your child(ern) will make you smile, and cry. You will want to give them more than you have, always. We all only do what we can. But knowing that you have done your best is also a reward.
I myself get choked up about my granddaughter, 15 months old. How do you help prepare them for what they will face in life. Well, you just do the best you can. And cope, as they will.
Anyway, you have a plan, good luck. _________________ HOLDING THE CENTER
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
Zeeea wrote:
i do not see any of this as "doomsday" at all though if thats any help
That has to wait until 2012 when Nibiru returns, right?
Zeeea wrote:
disregarding the "impossible" is essential to keeping your sanity
You should practice what you preach. _________________ Peak oil is sort of like a mental Everlasting Gobstopper, except it tastes like ass and you can't get it out of your mouth.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
Hermit,
There are days when the news affects many of us in the same way. Just try not to let the news set you into panic. As I've said before, no good decision has ever been made in a panic. Reality is bad enough - you don't need to start freaking over the what-ifs. We can only do what we have, where we are, with what we have. The fact that you have an idea of what is coming down the pike puts you and your family in a better spot than most.
Just take a deep breath, focus on what you have accomplished, and try to implement the next steps. One step at a time. The task ahead of us is overwhelming if we look at the whole of it. Take on one piece at a time and chip away at your preps. Every little bit will help.
And this on-line therapy group has helped most of us from time to time Check in anytime
Kathy
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
Hermit, I take it you are new at this. You've just recently come to realize that matters are going to get worse and you see that you need to make some quite dramatic changes.
I'm echoing CarlinsDarlin sentiment.
Don't panic, this "panic" stage will pass. Actually the biggest personal danger is the next stage. You'll calm down and look around and see that the world hasn't ended yet and complacency will set again. That's when you have to focus and continue with your preparations.
None of your preparations are unique to "doomsday", they are simply skills that you should be learning anyways. Think of them as a means to defend yourself against the costs of peakoil and global warming. Shortening your supply lines for food, buying locally, is a very good thing. Canning your own food provides your family with better quality food.
Consider this question. If Peak Oil is a hoax (I don't believe it is) and in a year or so the US returns to Nascar heaven, will your preparations and newly acquired skills have been a waste? I would suggest that your quality of life will have been enhanced considerably.
While I understand your sentiment about guns, I would suggest not ignoring them. Don't bother buying any (there will be plenty available if you need one), but do make sure you are familiar with the most common types. _________________ Gravity is not a force, it is a boundary layer.
Everything is coincident.
Love: the state of suspended anticipation.
To get any appreciable distance from the Earth in
a sensible amount of time, you must lie.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
Get over your distaste for guns. You take a bow to a gunfight & your kids won't have a dad. The gangs that form for the purpose of raiding larders will be well armed.
Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3357 Location: Minniesotuh
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
hermit wrote:
Today seemed to be a particularly bad news day. Between Fannie. freddie, Indymac, and a new oil high, I fear that things are declining faster than I can cope.
As a new father, I want to do the best for my family, but feel I'm not in a position to do so. It makes me very sad. I tell myself that many other fathers have faced (and are facing) the same challenge, but it doesn't make me feel any better.
I really wish I had any peaker/doomer friends to talk to, but I don't... Thus this inexpensive online therapy. Oddly, I feel like crying - A very rare thing for me. I fear I've worked myself into some sort of a frenzy. Thanks for listening...
Hermit, you don't recognise it yet, but you have shifted into the real Reality. You now stand a much better chance of surviving this mess because you have internalized the situation. A great many of us have been through the same shift-we understand exactly what you are feeling. There will be odd things that will shock you for awhile: driving to town, and seeing all the people that don't have a clue, hearing that a new sports stadium is going to be built, a family member planning to buy a new speed boat or a vacation home, that sort of thing. Things to which you might have never given a second thought, will now seem like total insanity.
It is my feeling that we still have 2-4 years before things are constantly desperate (unless there is a nuclear war). So, You Have Time To Prepare. In a few days, when most of the initial shock wears off, you and your wife should work on developing & finetuning your plans. Don't try to do it all in one day. Be flexible and willing to make adjustments as the need arises. You can do it. The Planning for the Future forum is going to be a Big help. There are other parents of young children here. Remember that your child(ren) will be better prepared because they will learn from you.
Do feel comfortable coming here to talk "Doom." Believe me, we Understand completely! _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Joined: Aug 24, 2005 Posts: 298 Location: Costa Geriatrica, Spain
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:17 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
hermit wrote:
Oddly, I feel like crying - A very rare thing for me. I fear I've worked myself into some sort of a frenzy.
Thanks for listening...
I think you need to cut yourself off from all media for a few weeks and give yourself a chance to calm down. Focus in on enjoying family life for a while and just ignore the outside world. Take an emotional holiday. You're having an anxiety attack, and maintaining that state will wear you out to the point of dysfunction. If you start feeling chest pains and hyperventilating go see your doctor.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
darwinsdog wrote:
Get over your distaste for guns. You take a bow to a gunfight & your kids won't have a dad. The gangs that form for the purpose of raiding larders will be well armed.
Yeah. The guy's willing to deliver three razor-sharp steel cutters into something's (or someone's) gut, but is uncomfortable with guns?
Hermit, stop intellectualizing and get to work. You are out of denial but now must create a real plan of action, and that demands cold hard truth and the light of day. Join a range, get a permit, buy some guns. Or plan on finding a village away from the city. _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
OP wrote:
. . . urban hippy flakes with unrealistic, organic back-to-the-land fantasies, and I don't trust them. . . .Bow (We dislike guns).
Funny how you put those two things in one paragraph.
Grow some F---ing balls. Your 30 years of being a dyed in the wool Clinton liberal are over.
You're either going to be a man who can protect his family or you're not.
I'd love to see this guy when his city is overrun and he needs to go out and get some meds. So there he is walking down the street with his quiver and bow.
I can see it now, "Yo, check out dis dude niggas, he gots a Bow!"
I'm sure that'll keep the zombies away. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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We can only do what we have, where we are, with what we have. The fact that you have an idea of what is coming down the pike puts you and your family in a better spot than most.
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