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NoWorries Tar Sands


Joined: Jun 05, 2008 Posts: 78
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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http://energytechstocks.com/wp/?p=1444
| Quote: | Posted: July 11, 2008
Everyone has an oil price prediction nowadays, but few are made by analysts as knowledgeable as Kevin Petak of ICF International, a consulting company that specializes in energy policy and markets. Petak models where energy markets are headed next – and how soon they’ll get there.
Petak’s models are telling him oil prices will “correct” down to the $70-to-$80-a-barrel range, but not nearly soon enough for price-pressured consumers and countries. He told EnergyTechStocks.com that a “depressed” economy will eventually drive prices down... |
He's basically talking about demand destruction here. And it's certainly possible. |
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Bas Moderator


Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 3772 Location: over here
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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if we ever see $70 again (which I highly doubt)due to demand destruction it will never be for long as supply decline will force the prices right upto where sustained demand destruction takes place, and that probably can only occur with an ever increasing price.
IOW I believe that Petak's models are outdated and are based, probably, on growing supply. _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
- Abraham Lincoln |
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essex Heavy Crude


Joined: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 169 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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To get to $70 the global economy would have to be completely bankrupted. Let's not go there !
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SMA Coal


Joined: Jul 11, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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Isn't that just more of the same old wishful thinking? "[...] emphasizing that a “technological shift” powered by PHEVs would eventually start turning things around." I'll believe in that technological shift the day I see it.
Other than that, well...he might be right but if oil hits 70$ because the economy is "depressed" we're probably talking about a depression so huge that 70$ oil won't make anyone happy anyway. |
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DantesPeak Expert


Joined: Oct 23, 2004 Posts: 5897 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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I don't know much about him but he completely missed the rise in natural gas prices this year, based upon another energy tech stocks report from 2007.
http://energytechstocks.com/wp/?p=570 _________________ It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting. |
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americandream Light Sweet Crude

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Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 1926 Location: kiwibush
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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Heck no. Oil will drop to $70 preceded by Indian and Chinese consumption dropping even though the growth programme currently underway in those countries has barely started, and pigs will fly. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate! |
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zberry Heavy Crude


Joined: Mar 21, 2006 Posts: 135
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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Is Mr. Petak aware that the U.S. uses a fiat currency system, and that Mr. Bernanke has promised to use the printing press, or its modern electronic equivalent, to fight any slowdown in "growth"?
If a commentator throws out a statement like that without at least dealing with the fiat currency issue, then I think the commentator is doing a disservice.
The long-term trendline for oil is actually in the 70-80 range, so it wouldn't surprise me to see it touch the trendline again, but I doubt it will. Too many people aware of peak oil now and too hard to hide the obvious depletion. |
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SoylentGreen Heavy Crude


Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 168
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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| If I was Mr Petaks employer, I would randomly pick him for a urinalysis immedietly. |
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Peleg Heavy Crude


Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 391
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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| zberry wrote: | Is Mr. Petak aware that the U.S. uses a fiat currency system, and that Mr. Bernanke has promised to use the printing press, or its modern electronic equivalent, to fight any slowdown in "growth"?
If a commentator throws out a statement like that without at least dealing with the fiat currency issue, then I think the commentator is doing a disservice.
The long-term trendline for oil is actually in the 70-80 range, so it wouldn't surprise me to see it touch the trendline again, but I doubt it will. Too many people aware of peak oil now and too hard to hide the obvious depletion. |
What kind of trend line are you using? |
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lowem Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jul 19, 2004 Posts: 1172 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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Good, good.
The "oil price will fall to $70" people are coming out of the woodwork. The turnaround will be swift, and violent, just as these calls reach a crescendo.
Remember when it hit $100 and the calls were for $50?
Their business model works this way :
1. divide the current record-setting price by two
2. issue press release or give a speech
When it hits $200, these people will be calling for oil to fall to $100  _________________ Live quotes - crude oil, gold and currencies
http://www.post1.net/lowem/page/livequotes |
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pstarr Expert


Joined: Sep 27, 2004 Posts: 7089 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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| Peleg wrote: | | zberry wrote: | Is Mr. Petak aware that the U.S. uses a fiat currency system, and that Mr. Bernanke has promised to use the printing press, or its modern electronic equivalent, to fight any slowdown in "growth"?
If a commentator throws out a statement like that without at least dealing with the fiat currency issue, then I think the commentator is doing a disservice.
The long-term trendline for oil is actually in the 70-80 range, so it wouldn't surprise me to see it touch the trendline again, but I doubt it will. Too many people aware of peak oil now and too hard to hide the obvious depletion. |
What kind of trend line are you using? | The only 'trendline' I see is straight up. Wasn't oil $9.89/barrel ten short years ago? When did it ever 'trend' at $70-80? _________________
ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap  |
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Brickhead Coal


Joined: Jun 23, 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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I don't know if this has been posted yet but I haven't seen it on here. This guy is working on pond scum becoming the next oil.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2008/06/10/obrien.algae.oil.cnn
In the video he says that with the land size of 1/10 of New Mexico, we could supply the whole US with all the oil it needs. |
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heroineworshipper Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 629 Location: Calif*
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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If U think subsidizing Freddie Kreugermac stock is going to wipe U out, imagine how many shares of Chevron stock your government would make you buy if there was an oil collapse. _________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions. |
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pstarr Expert


Joined: Sep 27, 2004 Posts: 7089 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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What does this have to do with oil-price trendlines? _________________
ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap  |
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Brickhead Coal


Joined: Jun 23, 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Oil will drop to $70 within 3 years' time: Kevin Petak |
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| A different way to produce oil, could mean a different commodity to buy. And the oil that's already in the ground might not be worth what it is now. Or this oil from pond scum gets grouped in with the oil in the ground and the price goes down because supply can keep up with demand. |
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