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Marie Tar Sands


Joined: Apr 13, 2005 Posts: 29
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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From the NY Times:
| Quote: | Mr. Bernanke was especially pessimistic about any easing of energy prices, dismissing suggestions that they were being driven by speculation in futures markets. Instead, he said high energy costs reflected the markets’ recognition that demand was outstripping supplies.
“Over the past several years, the world economy has expanded at its fastest pace in decades, leading to substantial increases in the demand for oil,” Mr. Bernanke said. “On the supply side, despite sharp increases in prices, the production of oil has risen only slightly in the past few years.” | NYTimes |
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allenwrench Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 23, 2008 Posts: 728
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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| Maybe someday those knuckleheads will have the balls to utter the words P E A K O I L |
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Serial_Worrier Heavy Crude


Joined: Jun 05, 2008 Posts: 233
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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Everything's fine in my Cornucopian universe!  |
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drew Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jul 22, 2004 Posts: 831 Location: canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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He blamed the evil NOCs and countries unwilling to allow development, while hinting at PO by referencing the declines of mature basins like the north sea.
I too thought it resembled an oblique admission of peak.
Drew |
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ROCKMAN Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 670 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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I'm with you Serial-worrier...life is grand and getting better everyday. But then I'm a petroleum geologist who has seen his income double in the last 4 years.
Yeah PO!!! |
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Mominator Heavy Crude


Joined: Jun 26, 2008 Posts: 106 Location: FL
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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I think we're going to see more oblique references. Gradually the concept of peak oil will come to the forefront. The words "peak oil" will probably be rarely spoken though.
A couple of days ago I was watching CNBC & they had a clip of H. Paulsen. Midway thru he started to say something about supply/demand issues and oil. It almost looked like he caught himself and he started a new sentence.
Anyone see that? I wish I remember what he was talking about so I could find a reference. _________________ ~Laura
"If you weren't smart enough to plan ahead then Doom on you!" ~Dodo bird |
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dohboi Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Dec 05, 2005 Posts: 1168
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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rock, are your seeing more people coming into the field? Simmons is as concerned about the lack of skilled geologists as he is about physical oil shortages. Are his fears misplaced?
Oh, and can you loan me a few grand?? |
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ROCKMAN Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 670 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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dohboi,
The business has always been cyclical. When I decided to major in geology in 1970 there was no such thing as a career as a petroleum geologist. I was young/dumb enough to do it just because I liked it. When I got out of grad school in '75 things were just starting to boom. By '80 enrollments in geo and engin. shot up. By the time they started graduating in the early 80's they couldn't even get an interview let alone a job. $10/bbl will do that. During the bust in the mid 80's it was estimated that the oil patch lost over 500,000 jobs. In 1986 biz had slowed so much I was delivering produce to restaurants to make up for lost income.
Right now there is a very uneven age distribution in the oil patch. Just a guess but in the next 5 years probably 25% or more of the most experienced hands will be hanging it up. It takes at least 5 to 8 years on the job for a geologist to really begin to contribute in a meaningful way. Some engineering jobs at the high and critical end of the food chain need at least 15 to 20 years of experience. The only thing offset the declining experience fact has been the technological advances. Some projects that would take a month to do by hand 30 years ago I can do even better now in 3 days with the aid of a computer. Given the booms and busts I've seen over the last 33 years I'm not sure how strong I would recommend an oil patch career right now. Things are booming but in 4 or 6 years who can be certain. Oil companies react very quickly to price drops. They'll cut their staff 50% overnight if they think they can get away from it. |
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dohboi Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Dec 05, 2005 Posts: 1168
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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| Thanks, Rockman, and best of luck in all the coming twists and turns. |
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shakespear1 Light Sweet Crude

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Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 1544
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Bernanke All But Admits Peak Oil |
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ROCKMAN
Yes, you are spot on.
As a reservoir engineer I can add that to be up to speed (working more or less by yourself) doing reservoir simulation will take about 5 yrs. Now you are running it but the depth of knowledge to attack "any" problem will take 10-15 yrs. Why? The mathematical modeling is one learning curve. However the next is understanding the production process , fluid properties another, geology and surprises found here takes even more time.
Ideally a candidate for this job should in my opinion someone who has gone through the different departments close to the well to understand the "reality" before he tries to reflect it in a mathematical one. Not an easy task and often does not happen. In this case "special adjustments" are made to fit thing together.
Garbage in is garbage out. So so true in the Oil Patch !!!!! _________________ Men argue, nature acts !
Voltaire
"...In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation."
Alan Greenspan |
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