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Hogan Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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US electrical infrastructure near breaking point
| Quote: | | Experts said this week that the infrastructure that provides electricity to homes and businesses throughout the country is nearing the breaking point because of increased energy demands |
| Quote: | | That's part of the nation's grim electrical picture according to industry and homeland security experts who gathered Wednesday at a forum in Shepherdstown to discuss the need for an improved electric transmission infrastructure system in West Virginia and the Mid-Atlantic region. |
| Quote: | | "The fact is that the United States has a growing appetite for electricity, and we've done very little about that for several decades ..." Larcamp said. "I don't want to be an alarmist here, but the window within which we can act to maintain reliable power supplies is getting to be tighter and tighter." |
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William Brier, vice president of policy and public affairs for EEI, said people have to understand that the nation is not just facing a gasoline crisis, but a full-fledged energy crisis. |
| Quote: | | Many of the uses of electricity, particularly in the home, didn't exist 30, 20 or even 10 years ago, he said. The average home today uses 60 percent more electricity than three decades ago. Just two standard cable set top boxes, for example, use the same amount of electricity as a refrigerator. |
| Quote: | "The biggest issue that we face in addition to trying to build this infrastructure is the rising cost of doing it," Brier said.
The same power plant built in 2000 would cost twice as much if it's built in 2008, he added, and the increased costs will ultimately have to be absorbed by consumers. |
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I wonder how already financially strained Americans will be able to pay even higher electric bills if new power plants are built. |
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sicophiliac Heavy Crude


Joined: Jun 28, 2005 Posts: 330 Location: san jose CA
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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| Too bad the economic stimulus package did not address this issue, 150 billion could have gone a long way in upgrading and maintaining our electrical grid. |
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HEADER_RACK Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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All those electric cars!! They will be contributing to the demise of civilization!! Let's hear it for the cornies!!  _________________ There will come a day when we would have wished to do a little evil for a greater good. |
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roccman Fusion


Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Posts: 4236 Location: The Great Sonoran Desert
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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Yep - best get your wind generators up and panels bolted down.. Its gonna be a wild ride ahead of us. _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
We are going back to roccland - me |
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Hogan Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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| HEADER_RACK wrote: | All those electric cars!! They will be contributing to the demise of civilization!! Let's hear it for the cornies!!  |
Yeah, that's one fact techno-cornucopians conveniently ignore. |
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lawnchair Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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20 years of, averaging 2.2% annual growth in demand will do that to you. Double the population growth. 55% more power drawn than in 1988. Added demand about the size of a Missouri or a New Jersey every year. _________________ At 1% annual growth, human bodies will incorporate every gram in the observable universe in approximately 10,170 years. |
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Homesteader Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 1162 Location: Central NC
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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| Hogan wrote: | | HEADER_RACK wrote: | All those electric cars!! They will be contributing to the demise of civilization!! Let's hear it for the cornies!!  | Yeah, that's one fact techno-cornucopians conveniently ignore. |
No, no, no. . . they all get charged up at night when demand is low and . . . and. . . . and then we all drive our 43 miles and. . .and. . .
cripes are we farked! _________________ "The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences…"
Sir Winston Churchill |
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patience Expert


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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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The son of our local electrical co-op board member told me to expect KWHR price to double in a couple years, due to new plant construction. If we get a carbon tax, Indiana coal-generated power will be costly indeed. Thus my solar system, and lots of usage cutbacks. _________________ Local fix-it guy.. |
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frankthetank Fusion


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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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What about those nuke plants? The McCain Nuke Initiative? Have they started building those yet? How many are completed? _________________ "Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the capacity to replace reserves is dwindling"
-President Bush 11/07/07 |
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SILENTTODD Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 811 Location: Tustin, CA
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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I heard Edward Teller tell me in 1966 we were going to have fusion by 1975. What happened!? _________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan |
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lawnchair Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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| frankthetank wrote: | | What about those nuke plants? The McCain Nuke Initiative? Have they started building those yet? How many are completed? | The NRC has accepted applications on 13 units at 8 locations in the last year, and are anticipating a total of at least thirty unit-applications in the next year-and-a-half. Since there hadn't been any applications for decades, that's right impressive. Sadly, the 8 applications already filed include four different reactor types, with others in review. Standardization? Not in this country!
McCain's "45 new plants" speech seems pretty weak when 30 of them are already in the pipeline. _________________ At 1% annual growth, human bodies will incorporate every gram in the observable universe in approximately 10,170 years. |
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startswithearthquakes Tar Sands


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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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| oh nooozz!!!1 Doom DOO00M DoOooOOMMm |
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Hogan Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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| startswithearthquakes wrote: | | oh nooozz!!!1 Doom DOO00M DoOooOOMMm | That's right. Don't listen to what the industry analysts and experts are saying. Just turn your brain back off and go back to watching television. Everything is going to be just fine...
What is it with all these newbie trolls lately, anyways?  |
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cube Fusion

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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: Re: US electrical infrastructure near breaking point |
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| frankthetank wrote: | | What about those nuke plants? The McCain Nuke Initiative? Have they started building those yet? How many are completed? |
The McCain plan == 45 nuclear plants
however....
People tend to forget we have 104 nuclear power reactors currently in operation and MOST of them are near the end of their "service life".
We need to build a hundred nuclear power reactors just to stay even. |
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