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roccman
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 Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth |
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One of the true pioneers of PO, Overshoot, Die Off, and most all other topics we discuss here daily...Jay Hanson...tries his hand at video making.
Very stark.
http://www.warsocialism.com/limitstogrowth.htm
More from Jay at his legendary:
dieoff.com
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smallpoxgirl
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth |
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Yes. Stark indeed. I assume the "one barrel invested" he's talking about is not actually a barrel of oil but the equivalent energy amount. Right? Clearly 1:1 is a crappy EROEI, but it may not necessarily be the wash it would seem if you're trading 1 BTU of coal fired electricity for 1 BTU of crude oil, since the BTU of crude offers more potential uses. Still I didn't realize the EROEI here had gotten that bad.
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yeahbut
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth |
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| roccman wrote: | One of the true pioneers of PO, Overshoot, Die Off, and most all other topics we discuss here daily...Jay Hanson...tries his hand at video making.
Very stark.
http://www.warsocialism.com/limitstogrowth.htm
More from Jay at his legendary:
dieoff.com
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| Quote: | "Overshoot and Carrying Capacity" (OCC) is the place to discuss all issues related to just that, overshoot, carrying capacity and the consequences there of. There are a number of things that you need to know about this new forum.
1. This is the place where these issues are to be discussed. All attempts to discuss the issue in other forums will be moved to OCC. |
rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum 
Wow. Is this really happening? Here, of all places? |
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roccman
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth |
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| yeahbut wrote: | | roccman wrote: | One of the true pioneers of PO, Overshoot, Die Off, and most all other topics we discuss here daily...Jay Hanson...tries his hand at video making.
Very stark.
http://www.warsocialism.com/limitstogrowth.htm
More from Jay at his legendary:
dieoff.com
site |
| Quote: | "Overshoot and Carrying Capacity" (OCC) is the place to discuss all issues related to just that, overshoot, carrying capacity and the consequences there of. There are a number of things that you need to know about this new forum.
1. This is the place where these issues are to be discussed. All attempts to discuss the issue in other forums will be moved to OCC. |
rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum
Wow. Is this really happening? Here, of all places? |
Hmmm...was not aware of these new places ...new faces.
Mods - move...merge...at will.
Jay should have his own thread, but whatever makes sense to the hive.
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smallpoxgirl
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth |
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| yeahbut wrote: | | rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum |
As far as I'm aware saying the words has not become taboo. If this thread becomes a discussion of those topics, then maybe it will need to be moved.
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I hear babies quit their crying.
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SoylentGreen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth |
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| I like his "now see Spot run" approach. Great for sheeple. |
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yeahbut
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | yeahbut wrote: | | rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum |
As far as I'm aware saying the words has not become taboo. If this thread becomes a discussion of those topics, then maybe it will need to be moved. |
I'm sure it won't come up. Any mention of overshoot or carrying capacity while discussing a vid about the limits to growth would be wilful and inflammatory with no relevance to the topic  |
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