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Plantagenet
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 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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Russia's invasion of Georgia has stiffened some spines elsewhere in Europe
Poland and USA sign treaty agreement
It wasn't very smart of Russia to invade Georgia. Now everyone is alerted to what their little game really is. 
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Roccland
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| Plantagenet wrote: |
It wasn't very smart of Russia to invade Georgia. Now everyone is alerted to what their little game really is. |
Really??
Turkey sides with Russia:
| Quote: | Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan expressed solidarity on Wednesday with Russia and its conflict in South Ossetia.
Upon his arrival in Moscow and meeting with Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, Erdogan said that he is here to express solidarity with the Russian leadership during this crisis.
The Turkish Prime Minister added that his country is ready to exert all efforts to help end the crisis and conflict in South Ossetia.
For his part, Putin said that his country is keen to ensure Turkey's stability, describing their relations with Turkey as a guaranteed and friendly partner. |
Who cares about Poland?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| Plantagenet wrote: | Russia's invasion of Georgia has stiffened some spines elsewhere in Europe
Poland and USA sign treaty agreement
It wasn't very smart of Russia to invade Georgia. Now everyone is alerted to what their little game really is. |
And georgia attacking and shelling unarmed civilians was even more stupid, since georgia got its ass kicked and NOW is crying about international law..... pitiful...
BTW, do you really thing that a treaty like the one you mentioned is something that can be prepared in few days???
The signing was going to be done anyway.
and now go back to sleep, poor baby... |
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Plantagenet
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| Cochise wrote: | | Plantagenet wrote: | Russia's invasion of Georgia has stiffened some spines elsewhere in Europe
Poland and USA sign treaty agreement
It wasn't very smart of Russia to invade Georgia. Now everyone is alerted to what their little game really is. |
And georgia attacking and shelling unarmed civilians was even more stupid, since georgia got its ass kicked and NOW is crying about international law..... pitiful..... |
Well....not quite everyone is alerted to Russia's little game.....  |
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idiom
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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I dunno. Hosting the ABM just makes you the first to get hit by the ladder-downs or penetration strikes.
Its the biggest most inflamatory target you could paint on yourself.
Mind you, Poland probably half expects Nato to cut a deal with Russia for half the country. |
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Tyler_JC
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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Poland is a major ally of the United States and an important member of the European Union.
I doubt Russia would be so foolish as to go after a country like that.
It's one thing to step on a tiny, belligerent country like Georgia. It is quite another to attempt to take on a country under the protection of several nuclear powers.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| idiom wrote: | I dunno. Hosting the ABM just makes you the first to get hit by the ladder-downs or penetration strikes.
Its the biggest most inflamatory target you could paint on yourself.
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All the countries of the former Russian empire already have inflammatory targets painted on themselves......Mother Russia wants them all back....Russia just invaded Georgia, and Poland and all the other countries who escaped the Russian empire now know the Bear is on the hunt again. Who will be invaded next?
Ukraine has already been threatened by Putin with "dismemberment".... now they know it isn't just words.... 
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Roccland
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| Plantagenet wrote: |
Ukraine has already been threatened by Putin with "dismemberment".... now they know it isn't just words.... |
And Bush threatened Pakisthan with being bomb back to the stone ages if they did not support his new illegal war with Iraq.
Your point was??
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| Plantagenet wrote: |
Mother Russia wants them all back.... |
It's easy to think that way, but I don't buy it. I'm sure it doesn't like the idea of old soviet bloc contries joining Nato, but I just don't see what good it is to Russia to waste so much resources on reconstructing the iron curtain.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| Plantagenet wrote: | Russia's invasion of Georgia has stiffened some spines elsewhere in Europe
Poland and USA sign treaty agreement
It wasn't very smart of Russia to invade Georgia. Now everyone is alerted to what their little game really is. |
It wasn't very smart of Georgia to send in special ops troops and wipe out three cities of women and children, this is what cause Russia to respond.
it is all a plan to foment fear. But the truth is coming out and it will backfire, it is imperative to elect anything byuut a neocon this time around.
In crises the most daring course is often safest.
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idiom
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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Roccland
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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Looky here PA - your myopic view of the world is shattering...
| Quote: | Russian support for Iran sanctions at risk amid Georgia rift
The US bid to promote a fourth round of sanctions may get lost amid sharp dispute over Russian military action in Georgia. |
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0815/p10s01-wome.html
Hmmmm...you think the bad ass paper tiger is gonna go it alone without rusky support.
Gee...PA - looks like you just cannot see the forest through the trees.
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nobodypanic
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| Roccland wrote: | Looky here PA - your myopic view of the world is shattering...
| Quote: | Russian support for Iran sanctions at risk amid Georgia rift
The US bid to promote a fourth round of sanctions may get lost amid sharp dispute over Russian military action in Georgia. |
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0815/p10s01-wome.html
Hmmmm...you think the bad ass paper tiger is gonna go it alone without rusky support.
Gee...PA - looks like you just cannot see the forest through the trees. |
so we blockade iran. what are they going to do? |
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Roccland
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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| nobodypanic wrote: | | Roccland wrote: | Looky here PA - your myopic view of the world is shattering...
| Quote: | Russian support for Iran sanctions at risk amid Georgia rift
The US bid to promote a fourth round of sanctions may get lost amid sharp dispute over Russian military action in Georgia. |
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0815/p10s01-wome.html
Hmmmm...you think the bad ass paper tiger is gonna go it alone without rusky support.
Gee...PA - looks like you just cannot see the forest through the trees. |
so we blockade iran. what are they going to do? |
Would be an illegal act of war if Russia vetos.
Nothing new for Bushco...
Just say'n.
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idiom
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Poland-USA sign anti-missile treaty |
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Ship Iran Nuclear tipped anti-ship missiles? Start supporting every dissident who wants a gun in Iraq? Setup shop in Cuba again?
These are all the obvious possibilities. What is bugging me is the big elephant we are missing. What is everyone playing for, what do the Kremlin and The Whitehouse expect China to do after the Olympics?
What is the wild card I am not seeing here? |
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