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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: The Jim Cramer Thread (merged) |
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... is right now sweating and SCREAMING at his audience to buy oil related stocks right now because, according to him, the high 40's we see today is a DIP which will not last.
This guy is really fun to watch.
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Stoic Tar Sands

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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder how many people have lost life savings listening to that guy. Actually, in this case I think he is right, in the long run the price of oil will probably continue to increase as demand increases and supply decreases. But, aside from this one instance, I regard Cramer as a market manipulator and a conman. |
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airstrip1 Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Cramer is a pimp. If he says buy then its time to sell. |
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savethehumans Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:19 am Post subject: |
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We are on the verge of Summer Driving Season in the US. This means all those vehicles are off on vacation. More gasoline will be needed. Thus, more OIL will be needed. There won't be enough oil. Not to fill our American gas guzzlers!
The dip to the high $40s was just to say goodbye. . . . |
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gt1370a Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 02, 2005 Posts: 346
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: Cramer mad money - oil bubble now? |
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I saw this article posted but didn't see a forum discussion on it:
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2005/9/9/152637/4302
So now Jim Cramer is looking for $100 oil. I wonder if now is really a start of a "bubble" in oil. The $100 oil may become a self-fulfilling prophecy if there is "bubble buying" like with real estate and tech stocks. I don't think this has happened yet - even Goldman Sachs said speculative buying only affected the day-to-day noise but not the overall trend. What would be a good indicator of this? P/E ratios for the oil majors going above 20? What would tell you oil was in a bubble vs. a supply/demand driven high price? |
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SD_Scott Heavy Crude


Joined: Dec 09, 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Around somewhere
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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| He's on right now. I saw it earlier today and he is totally on board with Simmons. He admitted that he was wrong about it and spoke very strongly about that and the upcoming gas crisis. |
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dinopello Fission


Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 2876 Location: The Urban Village
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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Oh my god, he's doing the milk cost analogy in detail... Did he just take the red pill? _________________ "Everybody knows how the zeitgeist can blind the awareness of mankind during entire periods, even if the truths are evident beyond all doubt." -Dr Joachim Langhein |
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MicroHydro Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Apr 10, 2005 Posts: 1286
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Cramer mad money - oil bubble now? |
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| gt1370a wrote: | I saw this article posted but didn't see a forum discussion on it:
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2005/9/9/152637/4302
So now Jim Cramer is looking for $100 oil. I wonder if now is really a start of a "bubble" in oil. The $100 oil may become a self-fulfilling prophecy if there is "bubble buying" like with real estate and tech stocks. I don't think this has happened yet - even Goldman Sachs said speculative buying only affected the day-to-day noise but not the overall trend. What would be a good indicator of this? P/E ratios for the oil majors going above 20? What would tell you oil was in a bubble vs. a supply/demand driven high price? |
If you saw a huge contango pricing structure - far future dates much more expensive than the present, that would be speculative. The spot (current) price cannot be speculative because oil must be consumed - there is very little storage capacity. You can't hoard several years of oil production in a vault like you can with gold. At the present time, there is a mild contango structure for a few months. This is industrial users (Southwest Airlines) hedging their supply cost. Otherwise the market is in backwardation, with 2011 oil cheaper than current oil. People haven't even started to speculate!
Cramer is meaningless. Nobody who watches his silly TV show for investment tips can afford to speculate in oil.
PS: Natural gas is also in backwardation, a very bullish sign _________________ "The world is changed... I feel it in the water... I feel it in the earth... I smell it in the air... Much that once was, is lost..." - Galadriel |
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SD_Scott Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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| He nailed it bigtime. He's enlightened. He called the natural gas crisis "criminal"! He also publicly admitted he was dead wrong. Good on him. |
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Shadizar Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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I just caught the show. I have to say, my respect for him has gone up dramatically!
-Shadizar |
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MattSavinar Elite


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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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| SD_Scott wrote: | | He nailed it bigtime. He's enlightened. He called the natural gas crisis "criminal"! He also publicly admitted he was dead wrong. Good on him. |
Wow. I'm amazed any modern tv pundit has the wuevos to admit publicly they were dead wrong about something. Good for him! |
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some_guy282 Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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I'd love to see some video of this. Don't suppose anyone taped it?
As Kramer would say..."Booya!" _________________ In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. – Nietzsche
Time makes more converts than reason. – Thomas Paine
History is a set of lies agreed upon. – Napoleon Bonaparte |
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FoxV Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Cramer mad money - oil bubble now? |
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| MicroHydro wrote: | | Cramer is meaningless. Nobody who watches his silly TV show for investment tips can afford to speculate in oil. |
Just another idiot analysis that only sees things when its obvious.
| Quote: | | I thought Oil was over priced but Katrina changed all that |
meanwhile for the past 6 months we've been watching a daily barrage of new reports about oil promblems everywhere.
| Quote: | I never realized the gas situation was as bad as it was...
What's happening with the gas supply is almost criminal |
Where the hell has he been living for the past two years.
Ultimately it does give a bit more publicity on the issue, but when a caller tried to bring up depletion and peak production he talks over him, not wanting to lose his witty (but admittedly plagiarized) milk analogy
oh well, some people think he's smart, let hope in the end he helps more than he hinders _________________ Angry yet? |
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falser Heavy Crude


Joined: Aug 12, 2005 Posts: 321 Location: Arlington, VA
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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I have it recorded but I'm way too lazy to edit/compress and find webspace for it.
This is a huge event in the world of the stock markets. A guy with a voice as loud as Cramer's can reach a long way. |
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strider3700 Fission


Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 2722 Location: Vancouver Island
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% |
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link
It looks like it was on at the start of the show? I missed the first half hour and there isn't much time left _________________ shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts |
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