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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: The Jim Cramer Thread (merged) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

... is right now sweating and SCREAMING at his audience to buy oil related stocks right now because, according to him, the high 40's we see today is a DIP which will not last.
This guy is really fun to watch.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I wonder how many people have lost life savings listening to that guy. Actually, in this case I think he is right, in the long run the price of oil will probably continue to increase as demand increases and supply decreases. But, aside from this one instance, I regard Cramer as a market manipulator and a conman.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cramer is a pimp. If he says buy then its time to sell.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We are on the verge of Summer Driving Season in the US. This means all those vehicles are off on vacation. More gasoline will be needed. Thus, more OIL will be needed. There won't be enough oil. Not to fill our American gas guzzlers!
The dip to the high $40s was just to say goodbye. . . .
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject: Cramer mad money - oil bubble now? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I saw this article posted but didn't see a forum discussion on it:
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2005/9/9/152637/4302

So now Jim Cramer is looking for $100 oil. I wonder if now is really a start of a "bubble" in oil. The $100 oil may become a self-fulfilling prophecy if there is "bubble buying" like with real estate and tech stocks. I don't think this has happened yet - even Goldman Sachs said speculative buying only affected the day-to-day noise but not the overall trend. What would be a good indicator of this? P/E ratios for the oil majors going above 20? What would tell you oil was in a bubble vs. a supply/demand driven high price?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

He's on right now. I saw it earlier today and he is totally on board with Simmons. He admitted that he was wrong about it and spoke very strongly about that and the upcoming gas crisis.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh my god, he's doing the milk cost analogy in detail... Did he just take the red pill?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Cramer mad money - oil bubble now? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

gt1370a wrote:
I saw this article posted but didn't see a forum discussion on it:
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2005/9/9/152637/4302

So now Jim Cramer is looking for $100 oil. I wonder if now is really a start of a "bubble" in oil. The $100 oil may become a self-fulfilling prophecy if there is "bubble buying" like with real estate and tech stocks. I don't think this has happened yet - even Goldman Sachs said speculative buying only affected the day-to-day noise but not the overall trend. What would be a good indicator of this? P/E ratios for the oil majors going above 20? What would tell you oil was in a bubble vs. a supply/demand driven high price?


If you saw a huge contango pricing structure - far future dates much more expensive than the present, that would be speculative. The spot (current) price cannot be speculative because oil must be consumed - there is very little storage capacity. You can't hoard several years of oil production in a vault like you can with gold. At the present time, there is a mild contango structure for a few months. This is industrial users (Southwest Airlines) hedging their supply cost. Otherwise the market is in backwardation, with 2011 oil cheaper than current oil. People haven't even started to speculate!

Cramer is meaningless. Nobody who watches his silly TV show for investment tips can afford to speculate in oil.

PS: Natural gas is also in backwardation, a very bullish sign
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

He nailed it bigtime. He's enlightened. He called the natural gas crisis "criminal"! He also publicly admitted he was dead wrong. Good on him.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I just caught the show. I have to say, my respect for him has gone up dramatically!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

SD_Scott wrote:
He nailed it bigtime. He's enlightened. He called the natural gas crisis "criminal"! He also publicly admitted he was dead wrong. Good on him.

Wow. I'm amazed any modern tv pundit has the wuevos to admit publicly they were dead wrong about something. Good for him!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'd love to see some video of this. Don't suppose anyone taped it?

As Kramer would say..."Booya!"
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Cramer mad money - oil bubble now? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

MicroHydro wrote:
Cramer is meaningless. Nobody who watches his silly TV show for investment tips can afford to speculate in oil.

Just another idiot analysis that only sees things when its obvious.
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I thought Oil was over priced but Katrina changed all that

meanwhile for the past 6 months we've been watching a daily barrage of new reports about oil promblems everywhere.

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I never realized the gas situation was as bad as it was...

What's happening with the gas supply is almost criminal

Where the hell has he been living for the past two years.

Ultimately it does give a bit more publicity on the issue, but when a caller tried to bring up depletion and peak production he talks over him, not wanting to lose his witty (but admittedly plagiarized) milk analogy

oh well, some people think he's smart, let hope in the end he helps more than he hinders
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I have it recorded but I'm way too lazy to edit/compress and find webspace for it.

This is a huge event in the world of the stock markets. A guy with a voice as loud as Cramer's can reach a long way.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Jim Kramer is a PO convert.......100% Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

link
It looks like it was on at the start of the show? I missed the first half hour and there isn't much time left
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