New water powered car!

OilBurner · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 417 Location: UK

If you thought that giant algae fields were a bit ambitious then you may find this concept a little *cough* wacky.

An organisation called Earth 2012 is trying to secure funding to develop a water powered car.
The process involves converting the water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then using the hyrdogen in the same fashion as any other fuel cell vehicle.
Instead of using regular electrolysis to split the hyrdogen and oxygen atoms, they're talking about making the water reach a resonant frequency, then only small amounts of energy will be required to generate the reaction. They're a little "fuzzy" on the details of how this will be done - unsurprisingly.

See:
http://www.earth2012.org

It all sounds like snakeoil to me, anyone care to comment on whether this is a case of pigs performing unaided aerial stunts or merely a means of relieving the very rich and silly from the burden of all that cash?
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KiddieKorral · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:13 am Post subject:

Sounds like snake oil to me, too. Expect more and more of this kind of thing as people start seeing the crap rushing toward the fan.
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OilBurner · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 417 Location: UK

What surprises me is that this web site was covered on a mainstream UK motoring website.
I guess even journalists get taken in sometimes!! Wink

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KiddieKorral · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:39 am Post subject:

It's all about the ad money.
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Aaron · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:22 am Post subject:

I weep for the future
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OilBurner · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 417 Location: UK

Chicagoan · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 19, 2004 Posts: 315

Is this real? http://www.earth2012.org/TacomaNarrowsBridge.mpg

I think this is just a joke. It looks too goofy.

OilBurner · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 417 Location: UK

If it wasn't for the fact that they're asking for donations, I'd also think it a spoof.
Either they're way ahead of their time and a little poor on detail or they're running what could be a highly profitable scam.
I know which I think it is.
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Whitecrab · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:44 am Post subject:

If it's public domain, why don't they share the "resonance technology" bit right now!?

OilBurner · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 417 Location: UK

That's the clever thing. If it is a scam, it has a certain grounding in science to help give it credibility. That doesn't mean it works though.
Tellingly, there is not enough detail or facts to allow their idea to be carefully examined.

To me, the whole things sounds like a sophisticated variation on the old perpetual motion machine con.
Water in and water out with little external energy used in-between? Hmmm..
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Whitecrab · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:54 am Post subject:

Itch · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 30, 2004 Posts: 338

What a joke. Even if the project was possible, they won't be making much money by using water as a fuel source, for other reasons besides using fossil fuels for mass production and manipulating the molecular structure of water. Unless they're using water from filthy oceans, then their little invention will become 100% useless once fresh water goes.

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Madpaddy · Expert Joined: Jun 25, 2004 Posts: 1989

Hi Oilburner,

Ditch the friend. Stupidity is contagious. He probably thinks a tonne of feathers is lighter than a tonne of lead.

All the best,

MADPADDY