Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Do you think that only peak oil debaters read the Post?
I suppose Ashcrofts spys also read these posts to see who they should round up next to 'dissapear', without charges, no access to a lawer and no civil rights into Americas 'goulogs'.
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Yea She., but the interest here is the content of the article, the validity of the publication and the veracity of the authors, don’t you think?
You don't expect them to critiqe their product do you?
Their MagLev train system will require a lot of rebuilding of our transportation system, it cannot use the rail and highway systems now in place.
I don't see such a system operating between more than a few large cities and how long will those large cities even be viable? _________________ Live like there's no tomorrow
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I was trying to point out that a mainstream publication with a straightforward description of the ramifications of expensive energy could have an impact on the public’s debate of the situation.
I wasn't talking about spies, trains or gulags; but about what was written in a national publication and the ramifications of that article. _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Actually Matt they might have figured a couple of things out themselves.
From the Post: "James C. Jordan is an energy and environment policy consultant and a former energy program director for the Navy. James R. Powell, a former senior scientist at Brookhaven National Laboratory, was a co-recipient, with Gordon Danby, of the 2000 Benjamin Franklin Medal in Engineering, for their invention of superconducting maglev technology. He is a director of Maglev 2000 of Florida Corp."
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Frome their site: "Maglev (Magnetic Levitation) is a new mode of transport, in which high speed vehicles are magnetically levitated and propelled along elevated guideways. Maglev can transport passengers and freight over long distances at speeds of hundreds of miles per hour. Maglev promises to be a major mode of transport in the 21st Century, even more important than autos, trucks and airplanes . "
I didn't mean the Post article specifically, but more in a general sense.
If you're a journalist looking to cover the "next big thing" and you do a google search for "Peak Oil" LATOC and Dieoff come up in the top 10.
When I first got into Peak Oil, it was the so called "conspiracy" or "doomsaying" sites like Dieoff and From The Wilderness where I got my education. PeakOil.net, ODAC, and HubbertsPeak.com are great resources, but I didn't start devouring them until after I got the "big picture" from FTW and Dieoff. Only at that point did I get interested in crunching numbers, the difference between Provable and probable etc. . . the type of stuff you'd be more likely to go to the science based sites.
"As the world's population and living standards rise, transport systems are ever more stressed. We see signs of a looming crisis. Congestion on the highways and airways is increasing and mobility - how rapidily and reliably we can move people and goods - is decreasing. The cost of energy is rising while the resource base is eroding. Damage to the environment - pollution and the contribution of carbon dioxide to global warming, and the loss of land to roadways - is also increasing."
And I missed the part about being able to use conventional rail beds.
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I was trying to point out that a mainstream publication with a straightforward description of the ramifications of expensive energy could have an impact on the public’s debate of the situation.
So far I haven't seen any public debate of the situation, most of the 'public' is unaware of the energy crisis or it's ramifications.
It looks like they will soon find out.
"Maglev is the best way to move people and goods in the 21st Century. Maglev offers dramatic improvements in speed and mobility, efficiency, and energy independence. Maglev offers major cost savings for passengers and freight. Maglev is environmentally friendly - it is non-polluting, uses less land, and reduces carbon dioxide emissions. "
Of course they don't mention that most of the electric generation needed to power MagLev is polluting and can we generate enough electricity after peak oil to operate a MagLev system?
I don't think so.
Our ability to generate electricity will decline dramaticly after peak oil. _________________ Live like there's no tomorrow
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