Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1197 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 6:42 am Post subject:
More seed sources, from the supermarket:
bird seed mixes (some grains and sesame, sunflower seeds)
sprouting seeds/beans in the healthfood section and already sprouted
seeds from the vege section
raw nuts still in their shells (peanuts esp. but others to grow trees)
Pop mentioned spice seeds and fruits and vegetables already
Also if you can find out about native food plants and collect seeds from them to 'encourage' their increase in populations nearby.
Visit the local botanical gardens and 'sample' from the various potential food plants there. (Sampling from the botanical gardens is a favourite passtime in Rockhampton, my home town. There are no gardens as diverse and interesting as those within walking distance of the gardens. It's amazing how many exotic plants have gone 'walkies'. My mother and Aunt Dell were both embarrassingly proficient at this.) _________________ Kind regards, Katkinkate
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops,
but the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
Masanobu Fukuoka
While I grow everything in my vegetable garden organically now, if the doomsday long emergency truly started, my first garden afterward would be well fertilized. Why? If the first one doesn't make it and make it big - I think the chances of survival fall exponentially.
Give me a winter to revise my plans, get truly used to little power, get bigger in the garden, etc., and I would take my chances with no fertilizer.
Joined: Nov 09, 2004 Posts: 1227 Location: Big Rock Candy Mountain
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject:
I'm just getting started with these:
http://greenwoodhealth.net/np/wolfberry.htm
They're rated a zone 5. Is there anyone out there who has experience with this plant? "most nutrient-dense substance known"
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12051 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject:
Is any Lycium equally good, do you know, or is it just this species? There's a Lycium native to the American southwest, so I'd rather grow those than the "foreigners," probably...
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 2680 Location: Vancouver Island
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject:
Any idea on how easy wolfberries are going to be to find? They look like a great addition to the front yard. _________________ shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
I suppose it depends on what ‘survival garden in a hurry’ means, Wed.
If it means grow-as-much-food-as-you-can-as-fast-as-you-can-to-keep-from-starving-garden, then I doubt resale value will matter much.
IMHO, roundup, superphosphate, DDT, paraquat, and Agent Orange are on the table in that case.
Damn straight! If I can get a nice garden and composting system in place with time to spare, swell, but if TSHTF tomorrow, I'd pour drain cleaner on my garden if it got me food faster.
Joined: Aug 18, 2004 Posts: 694 Location: SF Bay Area, Calif
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:42 am Post subject:
Googolplex wrote:
but if TSHTF tomorrow, I'd pour drain cleaner on my garden if it got me food faster.
And what would you do afterwards? How would you raise food if you'd ruined the soil? In a long-term emergency, the last thing you want to do is destroy your base of support.
If you feel fearful, maybe it would be better to do the survivalist thing and stockpile beans and grains.
Even though I only use organic methods, I realize that it is possible to use fertilizers and pesticides wisely -- read the labels, know what you're doing and don't overdo it.
For fertilizer (nitrogen), you can use diluted urine (though it's probably better to compost it).
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