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chuck6877
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:58 am    Post subject: Falling Dollar vs Rising Oil Prices Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Theoretically tell me if this is right:

Say the U.S. dollar falls 50% compared to other currencies, due to say the housing market collapse, bank collapse, foreigners selling our debt, etc.

Say then that the price of a Barrel of Oil which is tagged to the U.S. dollar goes up 50% to $75.

Wouldn't the U.S. be the only country affected by the rising oil price in this scenario?? Basically gas prices would stay unchanged all over the world except in the U.S. right?

So the U.S. would be affected more by the rising price of oil than any other country in the world, especially if the dollar collapsed, right?

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If it were so, it would certainly reduce consumption in the US without equivalent impact on the rest of the world. Unfortunately there are far too many other factors to consider.
Reduction of US consumption to half what it is today without radically impacting world markets would be an awesome achievment, in my view. Getting there from here, however, looks next to impossible, except through "demand destruction".

Maybe a substantial increase in oil use tax would do the job? I just don't know, macro economics are just to complex for my "widdle bitty brain" to envelop. In fact, most economists and analysts seem equally confused, so I guess I am in good company. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 5:54 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken, most central banks are heavily invested in Dollars. Our crash will directly affect their currencies. Ultimately, the crash will be felt hardest here, especially with the hedging of the other major players.
Hell, the rest of the world may just take the dollar out of the equation. Iran is planning to link their price per barrel to Euros very soon.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How bad would it be if Iran, then others, began trading oil in Euros and not dollars??
I've heard it would be bad.

Is it because now countries wouldn't need to buy the U.S. debt, and interest rates would skyrocket?

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:09 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Have a look at the petrodollar vs petroeuro thread.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:03 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

vegasmade wrote:
Hell, the rest of the world may just take the dollar out of the equation.


Unfortunately, the world market is too integrated to ignore a crash in ANY country as it would seriously effect export/import relations.
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