| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
RonMN Fission


Joined: Mar 18, 2005 Posts: 2533 Location: Minnesota
|
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: US Roads Crumbeling |
|
|
As if we didn't know this already...here's a bit of a news report out today:
QUOTE:
About 71 percent of major roads and highways in the Kansas City area are considered substandard, ranking the city No. 1 on the list of large urban areas with poor quality roads.
The St. Louis area ranked No. 3, with 66 percent of major routes having unacceptable quality pavement, according to the study released Thursday by TRIP, a Washington-based transportation research group.
And my personal favorite quote:
"We get a lot of cross-country traffic and we get more than our fair share of heavy truck traffic as well," Briggs said. "A lot of these major highways are 30 to 40 years old, taking a tremendous beating from all this traffic, and they are simply wearing out faster than we can repair them."
Can you say "overshoot"??? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Jack Moderator


Joined: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 4581
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ubercrap Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 27, 2005 Posts: 318
|
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: US Roads Crumbeling |
|
|
| RonMN wrote: | As if we didn't know this already...here's a bit of a news report out today:
QUOTE:
About 71 percent of major roads and highways in the Kansas City area are considered substandard, ranking the city No. 1 on the list of large urban areas with poor quality roads.
The St. Louis area ranked No. 3, with 66 percent of major routes having unacceptable quality pavement, according to the study released Thursday by TRIP, a Washington-based transportation research group.
And my personal favorite quote:
"We get a lot of cross-country traffic and we get more than our fair share of heavy truck traffic as well," Briggs said. "A lot of these major highways are 30 to 40 years old, taking a tremendous beating from all this traffic, and they are simply wearing out faster than we can repair them."
Can you say "overshoot"??? |
Ouch! That's what we get for being in the center of the country. Seriously, I find it hard to believe that Detroit doesn't beat out Kansas City, as I have lived in both cities. Many of Detroit's roads are like driving on the lunar surface. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
smallpoxgirl Moderator


Joined: Nov 08, 2004 Posts: 4575
|
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: US Roads Crumbeling |
|
|
| ubercrap wrote: | | Ouch! That's what we get for being in the center of the country. Seriously, I find it hard to believe that Detroit doesn't beat out Kansas City, as I have lived in both cities. Many of Detroit's roads are like driving on the lunar surface. |
That was my thought when I saw the report. Detroit is scary. Ever hit a foot deep pothole going sixty on the interstate. Yikes!
Actually Flint, MI is even worse than Detroit. Their roads are composed more of pot-holes than pavement. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TrueKaiser Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 28, 2004 Posts: 540
|
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
it's mainly due to the fact that the taxes on gas here is not locked into only going for road repairs. because of that the tax money is used to fund pork mostly. _________________ Religion is excellent stuff for keeping the common people quiet.
'Napoleon Bonaparte' |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
pstarr Expert


Joined: Sep 27, 2004 Posts: 6661 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain
|
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 12:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
It's mainly due to peak oil. We built one interstate highway system when we had lots of cheap Texas crude. Now that we have no cheap Texas crude, the PARTY IS OVER!!! No more interstate highway system. So sad. I'm all broke up.
pete _________________
ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
aahala Intermediate Crude


Joined: Feb 03, 2005 Posts: 954
|
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm in KC pretty often and am surprised they get the #1 award. It may
have been because of the unusually bad first few miles of I-70 leaving
the city east to St. Louis. Both towns probably get more than their share
of traffic due to their central location.
KC is on the "Nafta Highway" where Mexican and Canadian goods are
transported in the US. I've heard that in N. Mexico/S. Texas there's a
area that has the greatest level of semi traffic in the world. The trucks load
up with goods from Mexico but they don't return empty, they return
filled with cash, government debt securities and credit card receipts to pay
for the next shipment.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cube Fission

![]()
Joined: Mar 12, 2005 Posts: 2908
|
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
The roads aren't that bad......yet. It could always get worse.
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Tanada Expert


Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3277 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
|
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Pot holes smot holes, most of the serious one are caused by over loaded long haul trucks, and PO is killing off long haul trucking almost as fast as it kills the Airlines. Rail is more than 9 times as efficient in terms of ton/miles for cargo trasnport and as costs rise the bussiness is moving there. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
spot5050 Heavy Crude

![]()
Joined: Dec 07, 2004 Posts: 463 Location: Cheshire, England
|
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: US Roads Crumbeling |
|
|
| RonMN wrote: | As if we didn't know this already...here's a bit of a news report out today:
QUOTE:
About 71 percent of major roads and highways in the Kansas City area are considered substandard, ranking the city No. 1 on the list of large urban areas with poor quality roads.
The St. Louis area ranked No. 3, with 66 percent of major routes having unacceptable quality pavement, according to the study released Thursday by TRIP, a Washington-based transportation research group.
And my personal favorite quote:
"We get a lot of cross-country traffic and we get more than our fair share of heavy truck traffic as well," Briggs said. "A lot of these major highways are 30 to 40 years old, taking a tremendous beating from all this traffic, and they are simply wearing out faster than we can repair them."
Can you say "overshoot"??? |
It's even worse in the UK. I remember reading somewhere that 90% of UK roads are over 30 years old. Nightmare. Yikes. Where will it all end. Sheesh.l |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
matt21811 Heavy Crude


Joined: May 21, 2005 Posts: 173
|
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
"they are simply wearing out faster than we can repair them."
Can you say "overshoot"???"
Total non sequitur.
The first statement isnt even true. Are they telling me that the rate of repair of roads cant be improved simply by, oh i dont know, spending more money.
As for overshoot. We are not even close. Universal wealth will curb the population way before we reach any nature imposed restrictions. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ubercrap Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 27, 2005 Posts: 318
|
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| cube wrote: | The roads aren't that bad......yet. It could always get worse.
 |
Something like that happened in front of my apartment when I lived in Detroit. It looked like a giant puddle, but there was nothing under it. It swallowed up a good third to a half of a full-size van. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
JBinKC Heavy Crude


Joined: Aug 14, 2004 Posts: 245
|
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'll take bad roads over the waiting time and energy wasted by traffic jams from road construction caused from these repairs they are attempting to do now on the interstate system.
I must admit quite a few city streets are bad but that is KC's undoing by annexing such a big area to maintain. I believe the city has the most road miles per capita than every city in the US. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Cyrus Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jan 25, 2005 Posts: 603
|
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | cube wrote:
The roads aren't that bad......yet. It could always get worse.
Something like that happened in front of my apartment when I lived in Detroit. It looked like a giant puddle, but there was nothing under it. It swallowed up a good third to a half of a full-size van. |
Man, oh, man. I'm moving to D-town in about a month, can't wait! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TheTurtle Fission


Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 2126 Location: Along the banks of the muddy Mississippi
|
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:12 am Post subject: |
|
|
| matt21811 wrote: | | As for overshoot. We are not even close. Universal wealth will curb the population way before we reach any nature imposed restrictions. |
I have read that last sentence several times, and I don't have a clue what you are trying to say. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|