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EdF
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 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: "The Postman" Kevin Costner |
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| Revi wrote: | | I bought it from a video store that was going out of business. I really liked it! The Postman is the perfect post-apocalypse doomer movie. So what's not to like? |
How much better the book is.
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PenultimateManStanding
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: "The Postman" Kevin Costner |
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| EdF wrote: | | Revi wrote: | | I bought it from a video store that was going out of business. I really liked it! The Postman is the perfect post-apocalypse doomer movie. So what's not to like? |
How much better the book is.
- Ed |
Sorry Ed, the book was a piece of crap. I liked the movie better, and that doesn't happen very often. That business of the two "enhanced" guys fighting it out was the most retarded piece of nonsense. The prose was incompetent, the story was ridiculous. The Costner version was at least somewhat interesting. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: "The Postman" Kevin Costner |
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| Well, as they say, YMMV. |
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pstarr
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: 'The Postman' Kevin Costner |
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I love internet time. Message response a month apart! Like. Totally. Virtual? yaah?
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PenultimateManStanding
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: 'The Postman' Kevin Costner |
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| pstarr wrote: | | I love internet time. Message response a month apart! Like. Totally. Virtual? yaah? |
groovy! Maybe Ed will see it and post his response Jan 16th. (BTW what is YMMV?) |
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TommyJefferson
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| pstarr wrote: | | Dancing With Wolves was a wonderful movie. It, along with Little Big Man, educated me and many other normal, non-movie-critic fancypants about the validity of the Native American experience. |
I knew many people based their romanticized hog-wash notions of Native American culture and history on the products of Hollywood writers, but I've never seen anyone present it as a point of pride.
Wow.
Native Americans were for the most part vile, cruel, and hateful people. Traditional Indian life involved almost perpetual warfare, torture, and slavery. Women were property treated worse than dogs. Rape of the environment was a way of life.
If you wish to learn about Native Americans, go read some first-hand accounts of them from people like Mark Twain who was raised by Indian parents on a reservation until he was 12 years old. Read the accounts of people who lived and worked with them.
These will be more accurate than the financially profitable fantasies dreamed up by the Hollywood writers' guild.
Oh, The Postman was perhaps the most mind-numbingly dull movie ever made. I love post-apocalyptic movies, but that one was so tedious and UN-entertaining I don't see how it ever got released. |
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pstarr
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| TommyJefferson wrote: | | Native Americans were for the most part vile, cruel, and hateful people. |
That's a bit of a simplification, don't you think? I see that you have had a profound life event and realization: lots of folks are rotten. But that is not news and never once. What was new and important about these movies was an appreciation of native american culture and its COMPLEXITY. These movies both contained good and bad, stupid and bright indians. Until that time, every US movie showed such people as ridiculous phoney, plastic foils for the white lives.
I challenge you to name one Hollywood movie that came before these that was fair and balanced toward the native americans.
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