Are you scared of peak oil.

jupiter422 · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject: Are you scared of peak oil.

I am scared of peak oil .I mean not all the time ,but every once in awile i get scared I start thinking deeply about it and deep in my thoughts a fear arises. I think the fear is the unknown.I'm not scared to die I'm scared of peak oil though. I guess If you get the understanding that this is happening, like it or not and your mind wanders off into the reality before us,, it scary. you try to tell yourself your a surviver and you will pull through,but you just don't know. I live in southern cali. and i hate it i'm from michigan i grew up there in the country I had amish as nieghbors,we grew gardens ,raised farm animals ,fished ,and hunted.I was raised in a poor a-s family.So I know Ican tough thing sout ,but this sh*t is gonna effect the entire civilization. I'm not at all ashamed to admit that peak oil is scary,Good luck too all and too all good luck!!!!

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venky · Intermediate Crude Joined: Mar 13, 2005 Posts: 787

I used to get awfully depressed at times, but I dont that much anymore. I'm concentrating on my work and plans to deal with peak oil. I am hoping that I do make it through and survive, but if I dont, I've made peace with that thought I guess and it doesn't bother me anymore. Just do you best and hope it will work out, you cant do more.

Good luck
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k_semler · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:41 am Post subject:

You are in SoCal? Nice knowing you. You are but a one strand barbed wire fence gaurding the cliff against a stamped of Sheeple. Not only will they plummit to thier deaths off of the cliff, but you will be wrapped around a sheeple's legs and pulled off of the cliff also. KERSPLAT!
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My current view is that a substantial portion of the human population must exit life in the next 30 to 50 years to bring population numbers back into balance with the ability of earth to sustain us.

When I first learned of peak oil and the likely consequences I was most upset that my children and grandchildren would not lead more technologically advanced lives than I. After the full ramafications of peak oil penetrated my brain, I did become afraid for thier lives and mine also.

I now can accept my own death, and actually I can accept the idea that they also might die prematurely. This is so because I have directed my energy toward giving them the best chance of having food and shelter during the collapse period, and I can do little more, so I am satisfied that the remainder is out of my control. I can only guess at what the future will be and all my guesses are quite frightening.

I think that it is more reasonable to be scared than not.

I_Like_Plants · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:41 am Post subject:

I have a hard time being scared of something that's going to happen no matter how I feel.

I've been poor. Been very thin, walked everywhere, foraged and scrounged, patched my clothes, etc done that. Later as an adult I lived using far less energy (and food!) than anyone is supposed to be able to get away with in this country, and I dunno, it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. So you figure out what you can do, and maybe have a few less things to worry about like the stupid boss at work etc. I think the "civilized" American way of life has resulted in more food but FAR more stress and this is why our life expectancy has been going down.

Macsporan · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:46 am Post subject:

All must die. People, the civilisations they form, the very galaxies that whirl across our skies.

None are chosen forever and few are favoured.

The dinosaurs were lords of the earth for over 100 million years, then a burning star came down and they were gone along with all that they were or might have been.

The powers that struck them down will not spare us, if that is how it must be.

I veer between the hope that somehow we'll get out of it, shorn rather than flayed, and the very real fear that it is now too late to do anything to avert or moderate the Storm of Death that is coming.

The sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. A little more wisdom, a dash of common sense and common purpose and we'd be sitting pretty.

Even now we could still get by were it not for the complete lack of preparation, the stupidity, greed and shortsightedness of our rulers, the prospect of World War, and sheer mindless hysteria.

Thirty years ago Jimmy Carter, a grave statesman, told people to conserve energy. Instead they chose to listen to Ronald Reagan, a witless demogogue who told them it was "Morning in America".

Across the ocean there were others who insisted that "there is no such thing as society" and "There is no alternative" to laissez-faire capitalism, "Victorian values" and other empty nonsense.

Well they were wrong and it seems that societies that plan in the short term only survive in the short term.

We should have known better. We were fully and clearly warned. We even had a full-scale dress rehersal in the 1970's.

We have only ourselves to blame.

We are clever little monkeys that is for sure, but it is not cleverness that matters, but wisdom, and we just don't have it.

Sic transit gloria mundi.

See you on the Other Side, if there is one.

MicroHydro · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Apr 10, 2005 Posts: 1286

Having seen the ultimate glory of the high summer of the oil age (1969 - Cape Kennedy), from my perspective this oil fueled western civilization has been falling apart for a very long time. Once people dreamed of eliminating poverty, disease, and war and exploring the galaxy. Agreed, that was a hubristic delusion. But it was a beautiful dream while it lasted.

Now the US in particular has led the way into barbarism. There is a casual acceptance of torture, murder, and wars of aggression. The popular culture has been degraded beyond belief. Nothing remains in the zeitgiest except greed and hate. Superstition has triumphed. Civil liberties are a fading memory. The sequoias are being logged in the national monument itself. All that was fine and noble has been crushed.

The Earth cleansing herself of a vile infestation is not to be feared, but embraced. Hoist the mead and celebrate Ragnarok. Skoal!
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johnmarkos · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:52 am Post subject:

Don't be scared. Be strong instead. Do something to make things better, even if you know in your heart that it's futile. At least you will know you did the right thing.

Fear is a short term biological response to an immediate threat, not appropriate for long term planning and intelligent crisis management. The time to experience fear is when the zombie horde is bearing down on you from all sides, a la Shaun of the Dead.

LadyRuby · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject: C'mon folks...!

Woah Bessy!! I think there's a little too much gloom and doom here. Come on, people, this is sounding a little insane here.

This death to all, destruction, etc. seems over the top. We may certainly struggle and have economic hardships that perhaps none of us has known in our lifetime, but personally I believe this is something we can get through. In the "Great Depression" in the U.S., it was very tough for lots of folks (except the very wealthy), but the country didn't entirely fall apart, resort to anarchy, etc. We may have staggering unemployment but if we are able to concentrate our energies and resources on rebuilding our energy system, it may only be 10 or 15 years of real hardship. It doesn't mean everyone is going to die, or even suffer miserably.

My personal opinion is that on these boards there's a lot of very good information, and very IMPORTANT information. And much cause to be concerned and try to get our leaders on the right track. But there seem to be a fair number of folks on this board who are a little over the top in their apocalyptic forecasts, hoarding food, guns, etc. Just my two cents. I won't say, "we'll be fine," but I don't think it will be the end of civilization!

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I_Like_Plants · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject:

Yeppers I have a car and debt but hope to have neither in a few years, starting with paying off and getting rid of the car - then paying off the rest of the debt will be greatly accelerated.

I actually look forward to being a free to live in a rented room and live however I like, if I like.

Jdelagado · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Are you scared of peak oil.

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