For a minute there I thought I had to get off my couch, when all the while the fact is we don't have to do anything much but keep things afloat for just a few decades more! In fact, we'd best shut up about PO, because if our offspring finds out we knew about it all along, they'll turn and wring our necks come 2036!
Aprillia and a few other brands makes scooters with tires that are motorcycle size. They call them "Scarebeo" scooters or something funny like that. I personally don't like how they look, but I'm sure they'd hold up much better to potholes than most scooters.
FYI, the maximum range on my scooter is about 150 miles.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:49 pm Post subject: kawasaki klr 650
i own and ride a kawasaki klr 650. it is the suv of the motorcycle world. it's a dual sport capable of handling most of the terrain that a dirtbike would handle, and is also great on the street. here are some of the things i like about it:
engine: liquid-cooled dohc 650cc
mpg: ~50
gas tank: 6.2 gal (~300 mi range)
top speed: ~100mph
ground clearance: ~8 inches & can be adjusted
0 - 60mph: 4.7 seconds
retail price: ~$4999 brand new, i think. the latest model year has red tank/fenders, which looks much nicer than the green on mine.
This motorcycle has been around since 1986 or something, and mine (model year 2000) is not much different from the original. For this reason, aftermarket parts are plentiful, including kawasaki factory saddlebags, tank bags, tail bag... aftermarket windshields and tire selection for these machines is also great.
anyone interested in riding in the rain or snow would be wise to consider something like this. i have ridden dual sport bikes in snow on knobby tires, and it is doable for an experienced rider. it's ice that is really dangerous. for cold weather riding, the kawasaki makes enough spare electricity to power an electric vest.
if part of your emergency planning includes having a means to leave the area in a hurry, a motorcycle like this is worth consideration.
I sent in a request for more information the last site listed, as should everyone who's even slightly curious. The more people that express an interest, the sooner it will be available!
Joined: May 24, 2004 Posts: 3428 Location: California, USA
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:20 am Post subject:
Hot damn! Go Marines! Now we've gotta' get the Army interested!
I just sent in a request for price/availability of the milspec version, thinking of setting it up with a tool-carrier that can be locked onto the rear cargo frame, for geeks on the go to client sites.
If they could build a 3-wheeled truck with that engine, that would be way cool. Probably get "only" 80 mpg:-)
Joined: Aug 19, 2004 Posts: 1677 Location: Republic of Texas
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject:
I rode a 1989 KLR650 for years and loved it.
- stone axe simple
- huge gas tank
- 48mpg
- cruise at 70mph all day
- long production run = wide parts availability
- jump curbs and ditches
- low initial purchase price
Bought it with 23K miles for $1200. Sold it 4 years later with 48K miles for $1200. I kinda wish I wouldn't have sold it. I may get another.
Joined: Aug 13, 2004 Posts: 115 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:08 am Post subject:
No doubt bikes are going to be an asset - I would opt for off-road capable since some roads may get dangerous because of looters etc. Tires are the main problem, though, right? Lots of oil goes into the making therof. Further they will wear faster as road maintenance declines.
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 434 Location: Berkeley CA
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject:
Anyone though about kick scooters? those scooters were popular a few years ago,especially the razor ones. I remember in middle school almost everyone had one. Those scooters are pretty cheap, at least right now the price range is from $20-$60. Kick scooters are powered by human power.They're made of aircraft grade aluminium, so corrosion wouldn't be an issue. They don't seem to have that much in terms of replacment parts, except the wheels which needs to be replaced after it's worn down. This seems viable when good roads remain intact for short distance travel.
Skateboards are the same, very few parts. The base is made of wood, it seems good for short transport on good roads. I personally have a skateboard that I used when I were in 8th grade in middle school back in 2001. Again, the wheels needs to be replaced after some time, and the bearings needs to be greased. Viable to people?
Anyone though about kick scooters? those scooters were popular a few years ago,especially the razor ones. I remember in middle school almost everyone had one. Those scooters are pretty cheap, at least right now the price range is from $20-$60. Kick scooters are powered by human power.They're made of aircraft grade aluminium, so corrosion wouldn't be an issue. They don't seem to have that much in terms of replacment parts, except the wheels which needs to be replaced after it's worn down. This seems viable when good roads remain intact for short distance travel.
Skateboards are the same, very few parts. The base is made of wood, it seems good for short transport on good roads. I personally have a skateboard that I used when I were in 8th grade in middle school back in 2001. Again, the wheels needs to be replaced after some time, and the bearings needs to be greased. Viable to people?
How about roller skates? "Big wheels"? Pogo sticks? Heh, just kidding. Personally, I can't see myself going any lower-tech than a bike (with the exception of my own two feet, of course), but if things get bad then we're likely to see people using anything that's available and practical...foot-powered scooters and skateboards would at the very least allow a person to coast down paved hills.
I think the advantage with these scooters is you can fold it up, and carry it with you to where ever you want to go. It's great for people who's at a younger age like me.
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 85 Location: West Coast, USA
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:11 am Post subject:
I've never owned a motorcycle, but I worry it could be easily stolen (two guys can throw a 650cc bike in the back of a pickup, right?), and would be a target if fuel efficient vehicles are suddenly in demand. What kind of anti-theft devices are you guys using?
Joined: Dec 04, 2004 Posts: 2337 Location: perpetual state of exhaustion
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 11:42 am Post subject:
I do sue a kind of bike lock for my scooter its a very heavy gage wire cord and works really well. I've left my scooter outside department/grocery stores and not had any problems. But my city only has 4 million people and is in Canada that might make a difference.
Joined: Dec 04, 2004 Posts: 2337 Location: perpetual state of exhaustion
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject:
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That said, I still think they are the most fun you can have with your underwear on. Cars shield you from the world - motorcycles make you a part of it.
Very true you also have to pay a lot more attention to driving and the road. I never realized what a lazy driver I'd become until I rode.
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