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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I live at roughly the same latitude as Anchorage, Alaska. A faired recumbent would definitely not be my first choice of winter transportation. My winter ride is a 7 speed hybrid with studded tires and a normal amount if visibility gear. As car drivers here are used to the idiots without light or reflectors, I rarely if ever feel unsafe. My biggest problem is that my gear shift cable tends to freeze up in certain weather conditions.
Wisconsin is probably very different, though. I ain't preachin'.

Winter transportation on two wheel comes down to a single factor IMO: studded tires. Some enthusiasts here ride their 50 cc scooters on snow and ice. Perhaps not for everyone, but doable. My own winter motorcycle experience is limited to a day spent on a 125 cc honda with alu stud rubbers. Grip on ice was comparable to gravel. I have rarely had so much fun, although I must confess I fell a few times. I was riding like a maniac, and a 125 two stroke street legal machine is not ideally suited for powerslides...

In the army we had messengers doing some pretty incredible riding on old Husqvarnas. They had little skis spring mounted to the frame as footrests, so they could "put their feet down" at speed and keep upright that way.


Picture of motorcycle with skis
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

...there should be electrical motorcycles by now. Also to consider is the 4 wheeled motorcycle.

I personally prefer horses... but they are too "weird" on a city (mostly because of lack of space to mantain horses).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Bumpity bump bump.

I've been seriously considering getting a motorcycle for both fun and to cut back on my gas use. Not sure if I'll keep my truck or sell it and just have a motorcycle for the time being. Funds are pretty low right now, so I may do the latter.

Been a long time since I've ridden. Owned a few motorcycles in my late teens. Drove across country from AZ to SC on a 450 Rebel, then a few months later from NC to PA on a Suzuki Savage (in December no less---that was a cold, wet ride). Recently gotten the bug to get another bike. I'm looking at an old Virago---always liked cruisers.

TommyJefferson wrote:
I rode a 1989 KLR650 for years and loved it.

- stone axe simple
- huge gas tank
- 48mpg
- cruise at 70mph all day
- long production run = wide parts availability
- jump curbs and ditches
- low initial purchase price

Bought it with 23K miles for $1200. Sold it 4 years later with 48K miles for $1200. I kinda wish I wouldn't have sold it. I may get another.

TJ, how comfortable is the KLR650 on long road trips? I've only ridden a dirt bike once, and that was only for a few minutes. The LR650 looks like a pretty versatile bike, but the ones on my local Craigslist are kinda spendy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'm thinking about getting one of these Lifan motorcycles, soon, myself.

Probably one of the LF200 models. The Lifan bikes are China made (lol) but after some careful study and research, and having actually seen one (and heard and seen it started, run and driven) at a local dealership, I've found that Lifan apparently makes high quality bikes that do their job well. Their engines are Honda based, so no problems with parts. They also get around 100mpg. They (the ones I'm looking at) also generally only cost in the $1300-$1500US range, so definitely worth looking at.


My current mode of transportation is a '64 VW Beetle, and being that it's 43 years old, it needs to be fed new parts often. It'll get 30mpg in the best case scenario which is barely even 50% of the time. However, I will mention that with the amount of money it would take to get even these cheap motorbikes, I could have my car good to go mechanically to last me quite a few more years.

Tough choice....would I actually make my money back on the motorcycle in saved gas or would I not? The problem is, I don't know if I'll be doing enough regular driving with the motorbike in the future to justify the cost now. Unless the bike paid itself off in saved gas within a year or two, which seems plausible at this point.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I´m sure you will appreciate this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m2sWyc6lOc

BTW, in my experience is usual in a lot of countries to see a family of four in a single scotter, dangerous but economic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

QUESTION:
I'm contemplating getting a scooter. How do those of you using scooters keep them from getting stolen when you go in to a store or while you are at work? It seems that the size and relative light weight would make them an easy target for someone to just pick them up, put them in the back of a pickup and drive away. Is this a real concern?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Muckingfess wrote:
QUESTION:
I'm contemplating getting a scooter. How do those of you using scooters keep them from getting stolen when you go in to a store or while you are at work? It seems that the size and relative light weight would make them an easy target for someone to just pick them up, put them in the back of a pickup and drive away. Is this a real concern?



That's part of the reason we commonly park them on the sidewalk near the business door, much as one would a bicycle. Leave nothing valuable in the storage compartment because they're lightweight and can easily be stolen.

Although for some reason they really aren't stolen that often. That may change in time as things deteriorate.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Never thought of that. A person could EASILY steal a scooter in a pickup or even throw it in a small trailer. Just give it time, they'll become targets. A Honda is a easy $2000. I bet a big a$$ bike lock would work. One of those cable ones. Just wrap it around something solid.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I wonder if an electric fence charger would work if the offender is standing on pavement? They make cheap chargers that run on 12 volts.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

eXpat wrote:
I´m sure you will appreciate this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m2sWyc6lOc

Most of those activities are illegal where I live.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

eXpat wrote:
I´m sure you will appreciate this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m2sWyc6lOc

BTW, in my experience is usual in a lot of countries to see a family of four in a single scotter, dangerous but economic.



I've now seen this video three times. Thank you. It's wonderful. We all just sat and watched it again a few minutes ago.

I happily reminded the kids that's how they'll be getting around in a few years. Smile
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Terran wrote:
Don't forget there are battary powered scooters. They seem pretty cheap to operate, some dosn't go that fast. Some electric scooters are pretty cheap, like around $300.

I had a little Currie tech electric skateboard type scooter. I would only consider it good for very short jaunts on flat ground. It just didn't have the guts to do any real rides. I sold it though and made a profit on it.
I just got an EVT 168 Equinox scooter, it is 48vdc and does 35mph. The book says it will do 50 miles with a 160 lb rider, and while I haven't pushed it so much yet, my housemate Josh rode it 30+ miles on one charge. It certainly gets me to work and back! It is soo quiet...with no transmission, chain or driveshaft to make noise all you hear is the wind. It has its motor built into the wheel hub so the former bits ain't neccesary! I paid 2 grand for mine, I hadn't bought anything new since the 80s! This make my 3rd EV, I also have an electric garden tractor (elec-trak E-15) and an old Ez-Go 3 wheeled golf cart I use for a farm runabout. I still need to keep the gas cans about for the chainsaw and such, but it's real nice to roll without burning dino juice. It should pay for itself fairly quickly. I reccomend the EVT Equinox (or the Ion) to anybody who needs something to run errands with, I'm having Soo much fun with mine! Bella
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

frankthetank wrote:
Never thought of that. A person could EASILY steal a scooter in a pickup or even throw it in a small trailer. Just give it time, they'll become targets. A Honda is a easy $2000. I bet a big a$$ bike lock would work. One of those cable ones. Just wrap it around something solid.


Electronic anti-theft systems for motorcycles are widely available, just as they are for cars.
http://www.bikebone.com/page/BBSC/CTGY/MAS

One of these plus a decent brake-disc lock should be fine
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I got 48.8 MPG on my first tank of gas (KLR650). That was with the break-in procedure of varying the throttle.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: [Transportation] Motorcycles & scooters Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Just ordered a buell XB12R, Its rated at 50mpg city and 65mpg highway, and it still has 100 hp and 80lb tq. I'll let you know how it works out when I get it in about a month or so.
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