Jotapay wrote:Ludi wrote:I guess I'm not sure what we would do with slackers/parasites as a society.
If they are stealing from you, like a banker or a thief, defend yourself.
So what have you done recently about this?
Jotapay wrote:Ludi wrote:I guess I'm not sure what we would do with slackers/parasites as a society.
If they are stealing from you, like a banker or a thief, defend yourself.
Bas wrote:according to that definition, are there really that many parasites in America? aren't receivers of unemployment benefits obliged by law to look for a job and are checked upon that? IMHO opinion the only real parasites in the system are those who commit fraud with entitlements still it can be a daytime job surviving on welfare. Also those people not needed by the system, who are unable to find a job should be just left to die or forced to steal their daily bread? I don't think so. Not while we live in a system where bankers run off with millions for running the economy into the ground.
TWilliam wrote:
So how to decide? I suppose there might be any number of ways, but I for one believe that selecting a) obvious genetic defectives at birth, b) intentional grifters in all their myriad variations, and c) those that are no longer capable of self-support and lacking willing and capable familial support as the first to be winnowed is one of the more equitable choices. No racial or national biases, just selection made in line with the tendencies of Nature when left to her own devices.
Jotapay wrote:Ludi wrote:I guess I'm not sure what we would do with slackers/parasites as a society.
If they are stealing from you, like a banker or a thief, defend yourself. If not, then do nothing and let them reap their own harvest. No one ever said one has to work, but no one ever said I had to help them either if they are lazy.
davep wrote:So what have you done recently about this?
Ludi wrote:I for one don't find it difficult to pay my taxes. Have you stopped paying yours?
Ludi wrote:TWilliam wrote:
So how to decide? I suppose there might be any number of ways, but I for one believe that selecting a) obvious genetic defectives at birth, b) intentional grifters in all their myriad variations, and c) those that are no longer capable of self-support and lacking willing and capable familial support as the first to be winnowed is one of the more equitable choices. No racial or national biases, just selection made in line with the tendencies of Nature when left to her own devices.
What if they don't conveniently die? Should they be killed?
TWilliam wrote:Do you suppose that they're not going to be?
Which do you think would be preferable? That they be lynched? Or beaten to death? Or shot, or left to die slowly from untreated wounds, or ravaged by disease, or slowly starve to death, or... ? Or would a relatively benign and compassionate euthanasia be preferable?
Jotapay wrote:davep wrote:So what have you done recently about this?
Pay down debt, go to cash, get self-sufficient. Ignore complainers, whiners and freeloaders. Reduce consumption and the amount that I contribute to corporations and government to a minimum. Carry a pistol daily (for normal thieves).
davep wrote:Boo! I thought you were referring to a more active form of defence against the Bankers
Jotapay wrote:Being a Rambo tends to have acutely negative medical consequences.
Ludi wrote:TWilliam wrote:Do you suppose that they're not going to be?
Which do you think would be preferable? That they be lynched? Or beaten to death? Or shot, or left to die slowly from untreated wounds, or ravaged by disease, or slowly starve to death, or... ? Or would a relatively benign and compassionate euthanasia be preferable?
I won't be killing them. That's what you seem to want to do to them, so you tell me how you plan to kill them.
Ludi wrote:So you're going to hire someone else to kill them, I guess.
Ludi wrote:So you're going to hire someone else to kill them, I guess.
Ludi wrote:SeaGypsy, how do you decide whether someone else's life is worth living?
These conversations are not abstract for me. Several members of my family are old or disabled.
So how to decide? I suppose there might be any number of ways, but I for one believe that selecting a) obvious genetic defectives at birth, b) intentional grifters in all their myriad variations, and c) those that are no longer capable of self-support and lacking willing and capable familial support as the first to be winnowed is one of the more equitable choices.
SeaGypsy wrote:
Not Murder.
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