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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Rioters near Paris ignore pleas for calm (link)
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Youths rioting across Paris suburbs are ignoring pleas for calm, shooting at police and firefighters, burning a car dealership and hurling rocks at commuter trains.

Rioting first began in Clichy-sous-Bois a week ago, following the accidental deaths of two teenagers, aged 15 and 17, in a power substation.

The two youths were electrocuted and died, while another was injured.


A car showroom burns in Paris suburb, Aulnay-sous-Bois, early Thursday. (AP / Christophe Ena)


A car burns in a showroom in the Paris suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois early Thursday.

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Almost a quarter of the young people in these areas are unemployed, created conditions similar to a "powder-keg", according to CNN correspondent Jim Bitterman.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What is the world coming to?

(a) Guy Fawkes isn't till the 5th

(b) it's a UK event, not French.

(c) it just lasts an evening, not a week.

Tsk, youth of today....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Why can't the French be more civilized? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This looks like an infection that will spread Crying or Very sad

Most other EU contries are under a lot of population pressure as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This is only the beginning.

In five years, there will be zones, abandoned cities, in every Old Europe country which the muslims have taken over. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, France, the UK, Germany, the Netherlands and so on will have armed units patroling the borders of these zones to prevent anyone from exiting them. This is the future of Old Europe thanks to "multi-culturalism" and political correctness.

Anyone who wants to defend this development may just as well go home to my grandmother and spit her in the face. She has built up Europe from a stinking hellhole to what we have today. She did this for me. I don't want to see Europe being taken over by muslim nazis.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wow this rioting really seems to be getting worse.

Why not call out the National Guard or the like and declare martial law to get the rioters off the street?

Scheiewn I feel for you man it is said that Europe has recovered from the ravages of two world wars only to fall into chaos again.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I talked to my relative in france. They say it's not as bad a they make it out to be, its not like you step out on the street and there will be liek fights. you can still go to the mall or whatever and be safe.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

lotrfan55345 wrote:
I talked to my relative in france. They say it's not as bad a they make it out to be, its not like you step out on the street and there will be liek fights.


Maybe it depends on the street you walk. Have you asked that? Has your relative actually gone to the areas where they are rioting?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Seems to me that the rioters are assimilating into French culture very well.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I talked to my relative in france. They say it's not as bad a they make it out to be, its not like you step out on the street and there will be liek fights.


Yeah, my neighborhood burns down all the time too. Rolling Eyes


Anyways all of this riot press is bad for the travel business. Can we please suppress the news for the sake of Paris' travel industry!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I talked to my relative in france. They say it's not as bad a they make it out to be, its not like you step out on the street and there will be liek fights. you can still go to the mall or whatever and be safe.


Patience....and I'm not sorry to say I have no time for the french

Riots spread beyond French capital


A WEEK of suburban violence in France showed no sign of abating today after an eighth night of clashes and car-burning which for the first time spread beyond the capital.

Police reported a total of 400 vehicles set alight by rioters, mostly in the poor neighbourhoods of the Paris outskirts where night-time confrontations with police have raged since October 27, but some also in Dijon, eastern France, Marseille to the south and Normandy in the north....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Friday 04 November 2005, 11:08 Makka Time, 8:08 GMT

Fresh rioting on the outskirts of Paris spilled into Friday as gangs of youths continued their rampage for the eighth consecutive night.


There were sporadic signs of rioting elsewhere in France


Police said more than 160 cars were torched in the Paris region and 33 in the provinces, but the night seemed calmer than Thursday when 315 vehicles were burnt in the Ile-de-France region around the French capital.

Buses, fire engines and police were again pelted with stones in the Paris suburbs, with five policemen reported slightly injured by projectiles, but there were fewer direct confrontations between police and "troublemakers", according to a police spokesman.

One of the worst incidents took place at Neuilly-sur-Marne where police vans came under fire from pellet pistols, but nobody was hurt. Neuilly-sur-Marne is in the worst-hit northeastern region of Seine-Saint-Denis, where 1300 officers were deployed, and more than 30 people were arrested there and elsewhere.

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Copycat rampages

And for the first time since the troubles erupted on Thursday last week, there were sporadic signs of copycat rampages elsewhere in France.

Police said several cars in the eastern city of Dijon were set alight, while similar attacks took place in the western Seine-Maritime region and the Bouches-du-Rhone in the south of the country.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

As a French citizen, I'm quite sad to see what's going on! Sad

Unfortunately, these events were predictable. It's not the first time we are having problems with surburbs cities that have become ghettos for violent and despaired second generation immigrants. Even the police never have control over these places since as long as I can remember.

French have basically many problems:
- uncontrolled immigration from North Africa
- weak and unpopular police forces that are powerless in enforcing the law and order.
- over abused and collapsing social benefit system

That's why Le Pen is getting so much votes because people are fed up. One sure thing, Le Pen will get my vote next election!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jato wrote:

Yeah, my neighborhood burns down all the time too. Rolling Eyes


Arsenic crimes happen all the time...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Paris is Burning - part II Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

RedJake wrote:
Seems to me that the rioters are assimilating into French culture very well.

You can hardly tell the difference.
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