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highlander Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 03, 2004 Posts: 515 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: When was the US not "at war" |
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Now it is the war against terror, before that, the war against drugs, before that the cold war, WWII, WWI ad naseum.
Does anybody know the longest period of time that we were not involved in some kind of war? I'm 50, and it hasn't been in my lifetime. One would think a political party that uses "peace in our time" as a platform might do OK. _________________ This is where everybody puts profound words written by another...or not so profound words written by themselves
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Chocky Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 520 Location: The Land of Do-As-You-Please
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| Quote: | | "peace in our time" |
They might need a new slogan, seeing as that quote is from Neville Chamberlain- it's what he said when he got back to Britain in 1938, with a promise from Hitler not to invade any more countries.
It's often used as the ultimate example of an appeasment policy failing.
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rogerhb Master


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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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So what happens if the US collapses economically and cannot continue "The Long War", does it then become "The Long War That Was Not Quite As Long As We Were Expecting"? _________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken |
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Kickinthegob Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 283 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:12 am Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| rogerhb wrote: | | So what happens if the US collapses economically and cannot continue... |
This is when operation "Garden Plot" kicks in. You either go to a FEMA camp, catch bird flu and start pushin up daisies OR you go help collect oil in a foreign country. Economics will work like "we give you food and you do what we tell you to do". It might be called the New World Order War. George Orwell was a true visionary! |
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TorrKing Intermediate Crude


Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 743 Location: The ever shrinking wilds of Norway
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:33 am Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| rogerhb wrote: | | So what happens if the US collapses economically and cannot continue "The Long War", does it then become "The Long War That Was Not Quite As Long As We Were Expecting"? |
My guess is that the lack of a common enemy will make the Americans fight between themselves.
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Zardoz Expert


Joined: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 6284 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| Torjus wrote: | | ...My guess is that the lack of a common enemy will make the Americans fight between themselves. |
Like we're not doing that right now? We average almost 17,000 murders a year! |
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jato Moderator


Joined: Aug 14, 2004 Posts: 2063 Location: San Diego, Ca.
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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Check out this site, look at the 20th Century timeline _________________ "Peak oil isn't more than an interesting industry factoid and doesn't have anything to do with the hysterics speculated on ad nauseum around here!" ReserveGrowthRulz |
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highlander Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 03, 2004 Posts: 515 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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Thanks for the link Jato. At least we can see it's not just us 'mericans that like to fight all the time! _________________ This is where everybody puts profound words written by another...or not so profound words written by themselves
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bulletproof Tar Sands


Joined: Mar 05, 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Venezuela
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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You guys ought to read "Civil War II: The Coming Breakup Of America" by Thomas Chittum. He wrote it back in 1996, and the analysis is excellent. It's out of print now, but you can download it if you want to read it:
Civil War II
The book, in PDF: http://www.geocities.com/anakonda_fi/CWII.pdf
The book, in html: http://www.geocities.com/anakonda_fi/toc.html
His book is an excellent read vis-a-vis the deterioration of the US social structure, unequal treatment of racial groups that foment resentment and class anger, and both the ongoing reconquista of the American Southwest by Mexico and the demographic shift of blacks moving back to the "old south" and gaining political power.
He based his analysis on the experiences he had in Yugoslavia (he fought as a mercenary in the Bosnian war in 1992), and many of the things he predicted in 1996 have now come to pass. His book is difficult reading, mostly because he cares nothing for "politically correct" views and assumptions. In addition to that, his accurate depiction of what will actually happen if a civil war starts is depressing and frightening.
Having lived in both the American Southwest and in the deep south, I can say from personal experience that he provides a very accurate analysis of what is going on. His predictions about the consolidation of power by the federal government in an attempt to pre-empt a civil war are very accurate: the announcements by Donald Rumsfeld last year about military base closings and shifting troops to the south and southwest show that the US government is well aware of the problem and currently redeploying troops within the country to locations closer to the coming flash-points.
I recommend the book because it's beneficial to anyone thinking of relocation and preparation for Peak Oil. When an economy is stressed to the breaking point, so are the people. When large population groups get hungry they tend to go to war. _________________ Strategic Relocation to Margarita Island
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nth Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| When is the last time Congress declare war? |
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smallpoxgirl Moderator


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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| nth wrote: | | When is the last time Congress declare war? |
That's easy. December 1941.
Longest period of time without United States involved in a war? I would have to vote pre-history up to 1787. Since then the US hasn't gone more than a few years at a time without starting a war with somebody. _________________ "I was born in a deep forest
I wish I could live here all my life
I am made from stones and roots
My home, these woods and roads
All my life I loved this sound
Of the woods all around
Eagles fly where the winds blow free" -Korpiklaani |
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rogerhb Master


Joined: Sep 06, 2004 Posts: 5315 Location: Smalltown New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | I would have to vote pre-history up to 1787. |
Surely it wasn't the "United States" back then? _________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken |
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DomusAlbion Moderator


Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 1542 Location: Nez Perce Nation
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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I believe a more difficult and certainly more interesting question to answer would be the following:
"What major power within the last two hundred years has had a prolonged period of peace?"
Have any? _________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
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rogerhb Master


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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| DomusAlbion wrote: | I believe a more difficult and certainly more interesting question to answer would be the following:
"What major power within the last two hundred years has had a prolonged period of peace?"
Have any? |
Er, hm, ah, yes, good question! _________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken |
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Chocky Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 520 Location: The Land of Do-As-You-Please
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: When was the US not "at war" |
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| Thanks for posting a link to that book Bulletproof, very interesting. |
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