Toshiba's new battery makes peak oil a fantasy for you doome

dontworryaboutpeakoil · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 114

Toshiba's new battery technology makes peak oil a fantasy for you doomers.

Read em and weep!

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/toshibarsquos_f.html

This technology is real, and will be used in the next generation Priuses.

Peak Oil is a Transportation problem since most Transportation vehicles use liquid fuel.

With the introduction of advanced Batteries, most Cars will become hybrid or pure electric. Therefore, Peak Oil is not a problem.

americandream

Aaaaahh happy days are here. Now I'm gonna go out and live it up big time cos some dumbass reckons theres enuff Toshibas to power 6 billion bozos.
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Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!

Gvil · Tar Sands Joined: Feb 27, 2005 Posts: 31

Morons. Battery, as the name suggests STORE energy. Where this energy will come from is a whole different problem.

Gerben

Just look at the date of that article.

It's old. A quote of a comment made on that same link:
"Yeah, so what happened to this any way, there was the press release on March 29th, and then total silence. Was it just Toshiba running it's mouth, or does any one know where there has been something more recent?"

FireJack · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 16, 2005 Posts: 447

This is why I keep saying when its in the stores being used and proven by independent people then its good.

I've heard the reason we don't see these yet it the problem of the batteries exploding, or the risk of exploding. I remember dewalt was going to release a line of power tools using those batteries also but nothing, the whole thing just kind of died suddenly.

leduck · Coal Joined: Jul 28, 2006 Posts: 12

i love it. i keep hearing about battery technology, battery technology, battery technology..., as though it were a primary source of energy.

Gvil is right

dontworryaboutpeakoil · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 114

Come on Guys, read the article carefully.

leduck · Coal Joined: Jul 28, 2006 Posts: 12

dontworryaboutpeakoil

you don't create electricity, you generate it. It's about converting one form of energy into another. Batteries do not create electricty they store it. Batteries solgve nothing!

Damn -- get with the program

Smudger

It think better batteries help in two ways

firstly you get to make more use of regenerated energy from the brakes etc
secondly to a lesser extent the batteries wont run down so quickly.

If this means that the prius starts running at say 100 mpg instead of the current 6-65ish then that is a great result in reducing our demand and so extneding the time we have to manage our way out of PO

So as I think everyone knows its not a new power source, as I suspect no-one has suggested, but it could be a help in giving us more time to solve/manage PO without the "DOOOM" scenarios being predicted.

dontworryaboutpeakoil · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 114

Who said Batteriers are a source of energy? Did I say that?

As I've stated, the problem with Peak Oil is that most of our transportation depend on Oil for fuel.

Batteries are important because it can make electric cars a reality. Currently, Electric cars are not feasible due to poor Battery performance.

With these advanced batteries, that problem is solved, and thus, Electric cars are viable.

Electricity can be generated in many ways. Energy is not the problem with Peak Oil. It is liquid energy that is lacking.

Once the Oil runs out, our economies will collapse because our civilization requires Automobiles and Trucks, and Planes.

I repeat, generation of Electricity is not a problem. The potential for Electric power generation far exceeds our demand. If we utitlize even 1% of the land mass in solar panels to generate electricity, we'd have sufficient Energy to replace Fossil fuels.

You guys do not understand how important these advanced batteries are. With these batteries, an electrical car can be recharged in a minute with the full hundreds of miles of range. That solves the Transportation problem of Peak Oil, which is the bulk of Peak Oil problem.

You pessimists and doomers can deny it all you want, but the future is in these Batteries, and electrical cars.

Yes, if these batteries really work, and they do, we are SAVED.

dontworryaboutpeakoil · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 114

As the article states, these batteries lose less than 1% of their capacity after ONE THOUSAND recharges.

An electric car that is recharged once per week, 52x per year can last 19.2 YEARS after which only <1% capacity is lost. So these batteries will last for a very long time.

gnm

dontworryaboutpeakoil · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 114

TheDude

dontworryaboutpeakoil · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 114

You guys are way too pessimistic. You look for all the reasons why we are doomed. Maybe some of you want our society and civiliation to collapse. This is why I say you guys are doomers and gloomers and pessimists.

We're not doomed.

These batteries are a reality, and will radically change the automobile industry. Even today, more and more cars are becoming Hybrids. These advanced batteries will only improve over time, getting more and more energy dense, and cheaper.

And Full-Electric cars will be a reality.

People will be able to drive up to a gas station, recharge their cars that have 350 miles in range in less than a minute. And drive off.

People don't care if a car is powered by oil or electric. As long as it moves from point A to point B in a reasonably efficient manner, they won't notice.