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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: History Channel: Mega Disasters
They finally did one on Peak Oil. The series is of decent quality, covering meteor strikes, tsunamis, global warming, bird flu and the like.
It's only an hour long, which we all know is inadequate to explore the subject with the depth it deserves.
Many of the well-known "heavies" of the Peak Oil speaking tour crowd were interviewed. Kunstler was conspicuously absent.
They spent maybe ten minutes talking about M. King Hubbert himself but still failed to show a chart plotting probable future global output over time. Hubberts bell curve was on the screen for less than ten seconds, and it only showed U.S. production from like 1900-2050.
Staying true to the series it did actually delve pretty deeply into what some would call "doomer scenarios". They even went so far as to describe it as a "Mad Max world".
It's my opinion that they focused too much on transportation. Also, "solutions" were presented, but never described as hopelessly inadequate. The idea that alternative energy schemes have crippling shortcomings is a core tenet of most Peak Oil worries.
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I thought it was pretty good, all things considered.
I'm really starting to think 1 hour is ideal for a peak oil documentary. People have short attention spans these days. _________________ "The problems of today will not be solved by the same thinking that produced the problems in the first place." - Albert Einstein
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: History Channel: Mega Disasters
Aimrehtopyh wrote:
Many of the well-known "heavies" of the Peak Oil speaking tour crowd were interviewed. Kunstler was conspicuously absent.
I sure wouldn't confuse Kuntsler with a "heavy" in the po movement. More like someone with a vested interest in latching onto every disaster he can imagine, hijack or attach his brand of anti-SUV silliness to.
Aimrehtopyh wrote:
It's my opinion that they focused too much on transportation.
Considering that most crude is wasted in transport, this sounds like a reasonable place to settle.
Aimrehtopyh wrote:
Also, "solutions" were presented, but never described as hopelessly inadequate.
Maybe because...some of them aren't? For example, the electrification of transport strikes me as non hopelessly inadequate solution. Which is maybe why they spent so much time on the transport side of the equation?
Aimrehtopyh wrote:
The idea that alternative energy schemes have crippling shortcomings is a core tenet of most Peak Oil worries.
I actually thought that some of Tylers recent graphs would be in direct contradiction to your "crippling shortcomings" characterization.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: History Channel: Mega Disasters
Aimrehtopyh wrote:
They finally did one on Peak Oil. The series is of decent quality, covering meteor strikes, tsunamis, global warming, bird flu and the like.
It's only an hour long, which we all know is inadequate to explore the subject with the depth it deserves.
Many of the well-known "heavies" of the Peak Oil speaking tour crowd were interviewed. Kunstler was conspicuously absent.
They spent maybe ten minutes talking about M. King Hubbert himself but still failed to show a chart plotting probable future global output over time. Hubberts bell curve was on the screen for less than ten seconds, and it only showed U.S. production from like 1900-2050.
Staying true to the series it did actually delve pretty deeply into what some would call "doomer scenarios". They even went so far as to describe it as a "Mad Max world".
It's my opinion that they focused too much on transportation. Also, "solutions" were presented, but never described as hopelessly inadequate. The idea that alternative energy schemes have crippling shortcomings is a core tenet of most Peak Oil worries.
You can buy the DVD for about $25 or look at the broadcast schedule at www.history.com
Yeah finally and they put it on late at night...11PM and 3 AM.
It confused my wife. One guy said we would have oil for another 150 years.
They should have been more clear like...
"If the public does think briefly about future oil supplies, the question usually asked is, "How long will oil last?" This is the wrong question. Oil will be extracted in some insignificant quantity perhaps 200 years from now. The critical question is: When does the peak of world oil production occur?" ~ Richard C. Duncan
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