Written in 1997, Morrison's view of the coming ecological catastrophe fits lock-in-key with what we now know about peak oil.
It's not surprising that Morrison has lately integrated peak oil into a view of the Iraq war that is overwhelmingly compelling for its simplicity and how it comports with the known universe.
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So while the world faces an energy crisis in the very near future, America faces imminent extinction as an industrial and military power. Meanwhile, its crucial oil arteries in the Middle East are plainly exposed and well within the reach of its bitterest enemy, al Qu'eda.
Many of us have cavorted with the likes of Mike Ruppert and his masterful conspiracy theory because of the way he positions peak oil at the center of an epic struggle. We may have even read his HUGE TOME Crossing the Rubicon which was so brilliant it left me in the dust.
However, the Ptolemaic view of the universe was also brilliant. And wrong.
Reg Morrison's essay Who's Winning In Iraq? does in a mere 7 pages what hundreds of pages of Ruppert really couldn't do: convince me of a view of 9-11 and peak oil and the Iraq war that COMPORTS WITH WHAT I KNOW OF THE KNOWN UNIVERSE.
After accepting Ruppert's thesis a few years ago, I found myself too often in the "defensive" mode: how to explain this and that and the other thing? How could the doofus from Texas and his cowardly/heart-less side-kick pull off an act of such complicated evil genius?
Too, too many complications. We all know about Occam's Razor: THOU SHALT NOT MULTIPLY PROPOSITIONS.
Morrison has quietly taken that razor and gutted the last vestiges of our pride.
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Then out of the blue, on January 20, 2001, a naive Texas oilman managed to wangle his way into the White House. Here indeed was a gift from Allah, for here was a poorly-educated gung-ho Baptist assuming command of the world's greatest military machine. And the thing that most confronted him on the world stage was a small, oil-soaked, Muslim nation run by an 'evil' dictator--who also happened to be a proven loser. Here, surely, was bait that George W. Bush could not possibly ignore....
With a born-again Crusader at America's helm, al Qu'eda's next three targets chose themselves....
In Morrison's view, the war on Iraq and 9-11 don't need vast convoluted explanations. It requires you to accept only one thesis:
That the leaders of the greatest military power ever known -- and that includes Clinton, in relation to the Sudan bombing fiasco -- have also been THE GREATEST FOOLS ever known.
If you've read any classic literature, you know what I mean.
Iago pulled the wool over the great Othello's eyes.
The mighty Oedipus was stupid enough to think he could outrun the will of the gods.
So why not accept that the "faulty intelligence" that led to this sickening war was the work of al Qu'eda?
No wonder the Bushies HATE Valerie Plame. She was on the trail. She was about to grasp the embarrassing truth: Bush and Cheney swallowed whole a bait laid by The Enemy.
Now we're in for it.
As Othello howls, looking down at his wife's murdered body:
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O fool, fool, fool!
Who's Winning In Iraq? _________________ "By the time individuals discover that remaining resources will not be adequate for the next generation, the next generation has already been born. " David Price
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
Fools?
They've got 14 permanent bases sitting on top of the world's last swing producer of all time. Plus they've got investments in the companies that will eventually get the PSAs for said swing producer.
You're the fool for thinking the above arrangement is somehow anything other than the product of cold logic.
Does this look like the stock portfolio of a fool to you:
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
just got a crazy thought:
What if Matt is sponsored by the CIA? An insider luring the foolish sheep to his site and then selling them to the neocons?
And then again:
What if that´s Al Qaeda´s plan, and they are really only trying to get rid of these Peak Oilers, because they are actually supporting the house of Saud?
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
Matt, I think you've missed the point.
The Administration and al Qu'eda are evil twins.
Neither gives a crap about Iraq. _________________ "By the time individuals discover that remaining resources will not be adequate for the next generation, the next generation has already been born. " David Price
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
killJOY wrote:
In Morrison's view, the war on Iraq and 9-11 don't need vast convoluted explanations. It requires you to accept only one thesis:
That the leaders of the greatest military power ever known -- and that includes Clinton, in relation to the Sudan bombing fiasco -- have also been THE GREATEST FOOLS ever known.
There's an old saying when applying a good ol' Occam's Razor that goes something like "Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity".
That works all good and well in theory, but then we have to realize that everything that happens isn't due to idiocy. People do make plans to these effects, and the only thing this kind of thinking will do is play right into the hands of those making this happen.
But first, he have to establish whether such plans were being made to begin with. It's no good to just speculate all day, so we need something of substance in which to base any conclusions we may arrive at on.
On that note, we have PNAC and the NeoCons who have came out and publically stated through their publications that this entire war escapade in the middle east is their doing. They admited to it years before it ever got to where we're at now in their manifesto Rebuilding America's Defenses, and all you have to do is check the PNAC member roster, take a look at the current cabinet, and put 2 and 2 together.
So the idiot defense doesn't work here when you have a group that has openly stated it's goal of regional dominance for the obvious reasons taking steps to accomplish exactly that.
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
On that note, we have PNAC and the NeoCons who have came out and publically stated through their publications that this entire war escapade in the middle east is their doing. They admited to it years before it ever got to where we're at now in their manifesto Rebuilding America's Defenses, and all you have to do is check the PNAC member roster, take a look at the current cabinet, and put 2 and 2 together.
Once again, I think this misses the point: We don't need to consider a vast 9-11 conspiracy to explain this mess.
Credulity and greed will do.
Everything isn't going just as planned for them
thanks for that link! It only reinforces the point:
S T OOOO P I D IDEA _________________ "By the time individuals discover that remaining resources will not be adequate for the next generation, the next generation has already been born. " David Price
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
killJOY wrote:
Once again, I think this misses the point: We don't need to consider a vast 9-11 conspiracy to explain this mess.
Credulity and greed will do.
I share this view. I have seen a number of small conspiracies in my life, and I have detected some of them in advance. I have always failed to reverse-engineer them though, and ALWAYS over-interpreted the degree of design in them. In a couple of cases where I have got explanations from insiders, the conspiracies have always been much simpler and more short-term than I suspected. Most of them have been topped up with unintended consequences, blowbacks and failed coverups.
I don't say that conspiracies don't exist, I merely suggest that they often are much simpler than what can be suspected and that they get filled with cock-ups.
Considering the collapsed buildings on 9/11, I strongly suspect that buildings like these are prepared for controlled demolition already when they are designed and built. There might be 50-100 buildings globally where it makes some kind of sense for the owner to be able to minimize collateral damage from a building falling in a random way. Of course such preparations would be kept VERY secret. Insurance fraud takes care of the motive.
Absolutely zero explanation of how the towers could have collapsed the way they did. Zero explanation of the strange collapse of WTC7. Zero explanation of the apparent air force standdown.
I don't know how many times I've had to explain that the primary criticisms of the 911 Truth Movement have nothing to do with politics or alleged plots; they have to do with the things like the never-before-seen-except-in=instnaces-of-controlled-demolition building collapses and things which deal with empiraical evidence.
If Clinton had been president in an prosperous age of oil plenty and the WTC buildings collapsed like that on HIS watch, the people like those in the 911 Truth Movement would be questioning the motherfu*k out of the collapses.
To say something like, "The Bush Administration is too incompetent to have pulled off the attacks", or "It would take too many people to keep 911 secret", is to gloss over the very strange, still unexplained building collapses and the extreme heat of the rubble piles and empirical evidence like that. It's an a priori dismissal of the independent facts.
So this letter by Reg Morrison claims that Al Quaeda suckered the US into invading the Middle East thereby damaging its oil supply through a series of events that were unlikely to have been calculated in advance.
THAT STILL DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE STRANGE BUILDING COLLAPSES!!!!
THAT STILL DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE YELLOW-TO-RED-HOT TEMPERATURES OF THE RUBBLE PILES!!!
You see, those things are empirical evidence. To suggest that the Bush Administration was too incompetent to pull off 911 is an a priori argument - not a theory compiled against evidence.
To suggest that Al Quaeda suckered the US into an Iraqi Trap, is to speculate about political motives. It is not helpful to the task of building the best theory that fits the facts. _________________ "May you live in interesting times"
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
MacG wrote:
...Considering the collapsed buildings on 9/11, I strongly suspect that buildings like these are prepared for controlled demolition already when they are designed and built. There might be 50-100 buildings globally where it makes some kind of sense for the owner to be able to minimize collateral damage from a building falling in a random way. Of course such preparations would be kept VERY secret. Insurance fraud takes care of the motive.
WTF would it matter if the building HAD been designed for eventual controlled demolition? There were 3,000 people in them when they went down!
Oh, I see...the building fires set off the charges. They weren't set off deliberately.
Well, according to official sources, the jet fuel burned off in minutes but served to ignite office furnishings and such. It was those heat sources that weakened the steel, they say. Well, even if the fuel had lasted longer, temperatures would not have risen above an ordinary building fire temperatures - because we are talking about hydrocarbon fires in all cases.
NIST has reported that it has found no evidence of fire temperatures at the impact zones reaching above about 480 F (250 C).
So did the designers of the WTC Towers deliberately place demolition explosives in the buildings during their construction knowing that an ordinary office fire could set them off and destroy the entire structure?
Where are your brains!?
Additionally, the designers were able to place these explosives and keep the fact a secret for 30 years?
Welcome to conpiracy-land!!
Now let's investigate so that we can get to the bottom of these questions!!
Of course, you're free to believe what you want. I don't think it matters one bit. We'll soon have worse things to worry about.
But I like your spirit, Carlhole. _________________ "By the time individuals discover that remaining resources will not be adequate for the next generation, the next generation has already been born. " David Price
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
Carlhole wrote:
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Where are your brains!?
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Now let's investigate so that we can get to the bottom of these questions!!
Investigate 911
I'm afraid that you make assumptions and put words on my keyboard which I have not written. And you ignored a significant part of my post.
I agree with the request for a serious investigation, but what if the investigation shows that there are 50-100 buildings globally which are prepared and ready for demolition? Buildings with people in them? The most prestigious buildings in the most dense urban environments imaginable?
Why the charges were set off? I don't know. The most probable cause for WTC 1 & 2 would be that someone simply panicked. A very human treat. Happen all the time. And in the case of WTC 7 Silberman might just be almost honest when interviewed. Of course he don't mention the commercial aspects - they never do on TV.
Little did This Administration know what they were in for. _________________ "By the time individuals discover that remaining resources will not be adequate for the next generation, the next generation has already been born. " David Price
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Reg Morrison: peak oil visionary
MacG wrote:
...I agree with the request for a serious investigation, but what if the investigation shows that there are 50-100 buildings globally which are prepared and ready for demolition? Buildings with people in them? The most prestigious buildings in the most dense urban environments imaginable?
All you are doing in your speculation is substituting one hypothetical conspiracy theory for another - without knowing all the supporting facts.
Police investigators use deductive logic in their investigations because facts are independent while theories are dependent. In other words, theories change to fit the available facts.
It's the same thing in the Scientific Method: you compile the facts and then develop theories to explain them. The best theory is the one that most simply explains ALL the facts, particularly when the theory passes various experimental tests.
Regarding 911, all the facts of the case have not been released. All the facts have not been investigated properly. The theories which have ben put forward have not explained all the available facts.
In short, many, many questions remain that pertain to the empirical evidence. For this reason, 911 needs to be investigated. In the course of that investigation, perhaps it will turn out that thousands of high-rises worldwide have been pre-rigged for demolition. Perhaps it will turn out that these prior placed explosives could be set-off in an ordinary building fire.
I hope such a fabulous rumor gets started around the world because it would inspire people to investigate whether or not it is true. And that would inspire a further investigation of the sudden, symmetrical, near freefall collapses of the Towers and the strange collapse of WTC7. _________________ "May you live in interesting times"
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