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mattduke Intermediate Crude


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emersonbiggins Moderator


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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: US Gov Report: Grocery Prices Rising 5% Annually |
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Heh. Try 15%. _________________ "The people have spoken, the bastards." Mark Twain
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Tyler_JC Moderator


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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: US Gov Report: Grocery Prices Rising 5% Annually |
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| emersonbiggins wrote: | | Heh. Try 15%. |
I'd say 15% is a pretty good estimate, especially for dairy.
Eggs are up 20%, at least. I know because I make a lot of omelettes. Or rather...I used to make a lot of omelettes...but with eggs up 20%...
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: Re: US Gov Report: Grocery Prices Rising 5% Annually |
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The problem with trying to measure food inflation is that a lot of food manufactures are giving you less food and trying to sell it at the same price.......hoping you won't notice.
For example ice cream is no longer sold in half gallon, or at least the brand that I usually buy. If they give you 10% less food but raise the price by 5% ---> that does NOT count as 5% inflation. I think that's where these ridiculously low inflation numbers came from. |
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dorlomin Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: US Gov Report: Grocery Prices Rising 5% Annually |
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Food prices may including things like cakes, ready meals and even fast food (not sure) but while there ingrediants prices are going up the wages, advertising, capital costs and rents and so on are not. The cost of a highly processed food is far greater than the cost of its inputs: so while wheat and corn go up, this pushes up the cost of meat and eggs it may not be as big a factor in the cost of TV dinner.
Also the full impact of transport cost increases may not have been passed on to the producer and then on to the consumer. Whats more some companies may be holding back on price increases this early in the inflationry period. So they may be making a loss or atleast less of a profit worried about losing customer to compition or just pricing them out of a market with little business confidence.
It will take time for the full impact of the recent inflation to work itself into the cost of goods and yet longer to work itself into wage demands.
The devil is in the details of what foods are in the basket.
Funnily enough two different UK forums, one with alot of working poor on it has had several threads about the cost of foods going up, another with a far more middle class orientation was very non plussed when I brought up food inflation. Different people are buying different things and have more flexible budgets. |
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vision-master Fission


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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Re: US Gov Report: Grocery Prices Rising 5% Annually |
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| Bin-in-hers aka bananas have like almost doubled within the past year. |
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Roy Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: Re: US Gov Report: Grocery Prices Rising 5% Annually |
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| Quote: | | The problem with trying to measure food inflation is that a lot of food manufactures are giving you less food and trying to sell it at the same price.......hoping you won't notice. |
DING!!
Here's another example:
Last summer a 16 0z box of whole wheat spaghetti cost 99˘. Now, a 13.25 oz box of whole wheat spaghetti costs $1.34.
Physically the boxes are identical in dimension. I have some of each.
so 99 cents/16 oz = 6.18 cents/oz
and 134 cents/13.25 oz = 10.11 cents/ oz
giving a real price increase of 63.5%, when the apparent price increase is ~34% . Sneaky bastards.
I wonder how many people actually notice the change in the weight of the contents?
Does anyone here remember the '3 lb coffee can'. Now they are 34.5 oz. Likewise the same sized metal can that used to contain 1 lb of coffee now contains 12 oz. I'm sure there are many more examples. |
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