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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Top ten...


1. Generators
(Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance, etc.)

2. Water Filters/Purifiers

3. Portable Toilets (Increasing in price every two months.)

4. Seasoned Firewood
(About $100 per cord; wood takes 6 - 12 mos. to become dried, for home uses.)

5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps
(First choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)

6. Coleman Fuel
(URGENT $2.69-$3.99/gal. Impossible to stockpile too much.)

7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats and Slingshots

8. Hand-Can openers and hand egg beaters, whisks (Life savers!)

9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugars

10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
(White rice is now $12.95 - 50# bag. Sam's Club, stock depleted often.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

roccman wrote:
4. Seasoned Firewood
(About $100 per cord; wood takes 6 - 12 mos. to become dried, for home uses.)


Where the heck can I get seasoned firewood for only $100/cord!? This is split wood not trunks, right? Around here I'm pretty sure it starts around $200/cord, and for true cords of truly well-dried stuff goes for more.

For $100, I'll put the chainsaw away next year and tell them to bring me truckloads! Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thats the best you can do?!

Pff.

100 Items to Disappear First

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Spec -

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

FoolYap wrote:
roccman wrote:
4. Seasoned Firewood
(About $100 per cord; wood takes 6 - 12 mos. to become dried, for home uses.)


Where the heck can I get seasoned firewood for only $100/cord!? This is split wood not trunks, right? Around here I'm pretty sure it starts around $200/cord, and for true cords of truly well-dried stuff goes for more.

For $100, I'll put the chainsaw away next year and tell them to bring me truckloads! Razz

--Steve


You can get it for $100 in the Past, 2003 more specifically, according to the date on the page. But yeah, $200 now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I am trying to find as much useful stuff as I can during this period of relative calm before the storm. I have decided to concentrate on stoneware pottery and cast iron cookware, since both are still useful and also can be found in antique stores and yard sales.

We really do need to get things that disappear in a disaster.

I would add to the list candles and lighters.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Don't forget to view my best barter items for a post peak collapse thread in the planning forum!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

roccman wrote:
6. Coleman Fuel
(URGENT $2.69-$3.99/gal. Impossible to stockpile too much.)


Ummm...you were aware that "Coleman Fuel" is just gasoline right? It's "white" gas meaning it's been filtered better than pump gas, but most any "Coleman Fuel" appliance will run fine off gasoline.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I would add instant pancake mix(just add water kind).

I remember going into a supermarket on New Years eve 1999 and astonished to find they had been cleaned out. Cheap comfort food.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Change of list

1. Cigarettes
2. Coffee
3. Batteries
4. Lighter
5. Handgun with plenty of ammo for everything else


It is just another list compiled by a jesus freak.

http://www.josephprep.com/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Revi wrote:
I am trying to find as much useful stuff as I can during this period of relative calm before the storm. I have decided to concentrate on stoneware pottery and cast iron cookware, since both are still useful and also can be found in antique stores and yard sales.

We really do need to get things that disappear in a disaster.

I would add to the list candles and lighters.


Toilet paper!
Its cheap and when it runs out its probably worth its weight in gold. Trade for whatever you need. Soap too.

Heres the rest of the text to go with the list....

From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to
do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of
the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs
enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in
bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll
have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many
people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of
toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to
lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Stockpile while your able. I myself am just buying and extra item every time I go grocery shopping. So far I have, 1 lb honey, 2 Kg salt, spam, 40 lbs rice, 15 kg of oats, 5lbs sugar, 20 lbs of mixed barely, soybeans, lentils, split pea's and the book "Peakoil life after gridcrash".

Still have so much to buy, like more food, toothpaste, tooth brushes, soap, shampoo, etc.... Still I will work on food first as that is the most important.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

sciencegirl wrote:
Stockpile while your able. I myself am just buying and extra item every time I go grocery shopping. So far I have, 1 lb honey, 2 Kg salt, spam, 40 lbs rice, 15 kg of oats, 5lbs sugar, 20 lbs of mixed barely, soybeans, lentils, split pea's and the book "Peakoil life after gridcrash".

Still have so much to buy, like more food, toothpaste, tooth brushes, soap, shampoo, etc.... Still I will work on food first as that is the most important.


Feed stores have oats, wheat, corn, and barley at 80% less than the grocery store price.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

sciencegirl wrote:
Stockpile while your able. I myself am just buying and extra item every time I go grocery shopping. So far I have, 1 lb honey, 2 Kg salt, spam, 40 lbs rice, 15 kg of oats, 5lbs sugar, 20 lbs of mixed barely, soybeans, lentils, split pea's and the book "Peakoil life after gridcrash".

Still have so much to buy, like more food, toothpaste, tooth brushes, soap, shampoo, etc.... Still I will work on food first as that is the most important.


Apart from the honey I have about the same food stocked as you although corned beef rather than spam.

Never thought of toothpaste. Glad about this thread now.

Antibiotics would be a good barter item too. (recently watched the series Jericho) although a prescription is needed in the UK.
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