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zeke Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitting |
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I've been hearing and reading lately what seems to be an urban legend among some folks that there are "hundreds and thousands" of oil wells which could be pumping sweet crude at this very moment, if not for...
and then the story has it that the oil companies are sitting on more sweet domestic crude than in 50 Ghawars, yadda yadda..
I'm wondering what, if any, the kernel of truth there is to this story which has vaulted it to full-on whopper status.
anyone know about this?
zeke _________________ Discuss sustainability at www.ThinkPlan.org |
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Cashmere Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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There was a rumor in my high school that I was hung better than JHolmes himself. In fact, I'm the origin of the exclamation, 'Word, Holmes!"
In the end, however, it turned out to be untrue. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group. |
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MD Community Manager

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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There is always some "shut-in" capacity around, for various reasons. Back in the 80's when the price crashed quite a few wells were shut down for economic reasons.
I think that's the seed of truth you are looking for. _________________ "It's still all about energy!"
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MadScientist Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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I got to a point in my PO education...back in about 2005, when I realized that capping oil wells (which has been happening much more recently than the '80s) , delaying ANWR and OCS development, and setting up shop in Iraq make a lot of sense strategically.
In a lot of ways, the worst thing we could do is drain ALL of our domestic reserves in some last twitch effort to maintain. Far better to use the rest of the world's oil, at whatever the price.
Sooner or later you'll realize the "plan" is not to save us from a fall but rather to be in a position of power after the inevitable. And dont have any illusions about fluffy things like freedom and democracy being a part of that position of power. _________________ "The future power is manpower" |
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JustaGirl Heavy Crude

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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| Last I read there are around 6,000 capped wells. I wouldn't expect much from them. Maybe extend the plateau a bit, probably not. |
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zeke Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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| MadScientist wrote: | | Sooner or later you'll realize the "plan" is not to save us from a fall but rather to be in a position of power after the inevitable. And dont have any illusions about fluffy things like freedom and democracy being a part of that position of power. |
wow..you really know how to dispense the warm fuzzies, doncha?
zeke _________________ Discuss sustainability at www.ThinkPlan.org |
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Armageddon Fusion


Joined: Apr 13, 2005 Posts: 3181 Location: St.Louis, Mo
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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| Wells are capped to keep the pressure up from inside the same field. People are too stupid to realize this. |
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Serial_Worrier Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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| Pump every last drop of that sweet crude baby. Mmm hmmm. I need more of that sweet gas for my H2 and Ram V8 as I commute to Best Buy to buy that latest 80" Plasma with Super-HiFi Fidelity 12.1 Surround Sound! |
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Windmills Heavy Crude

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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Another seed of truth that is distorted in these types of urban legends is that, yes, there is a lot of oil that companies are "sitting on": it's the oil left in a field that can't be extracted, which is usually about 70 to 80% of the amount originally in the ground, if I recall correctly. As a field is produced, the pressure drops too far for anymore oil to be pumped out.
The myth-makers take a fact like that and ignore the part where the oil can't be extracted and just say, "look at all that oil left in the ground! They're just sitting on it...because...because they hate our freedom!" |
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cynthia Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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My father is 75 years old and lived in California for the first 20 years of his life. He saw numerous oil wells capped and believes if only we opened them up we wouldn't be so dependent on ME oil thereby making gasoline affordable again.
Hmmm. I like to keep the family visits pleasant and have stopped discussing contrary viewpoints.
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MonteQuest Elite


Joined: Sep 06, 2004 Posts: 13460 Location: Sedona, Arizona
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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| Windmills wrote: | Another seed of truth that is distorted in these types of urban legends is that, yes, there is a lot of oil that companies are "sitting on": it's the oil left in a field that can't be extracted, which is usually about 70 to 80% of the amount originally in the ground, if I recall correctly. As a field is produced, the pressure drops too far for anymore oil to be pumped out.
The myth-makers take a fact like that and ignore the part where the oil can't be extracted and just say, "look at all that oil left in the ground! They're just sitting on it...because...because they hate our freedom!" |
Yes, on average, the extraction percentage is about 35%. _________________ A Saudi saying, "My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet-plane. His son will ride a camel."
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Serial_Worrier Heavy Crude


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joeltrout Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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| cynthia wrote: | | My father is 75 years old and lived in California for the first 20 years of his life. He saw numerous oil wells capped and | There are many wells "capped" all over the US. I just met with an oil company this morning outside of Bakersfield, California that are going to re-enter 9 wells that were abandoned in the 80s. The wells were never plugged and will produce oil HOWEVER the production will be small amounts. Definitely not going to help in increasing US production but there are thousands of stripper wells that were abandoned in the 80s and 90s because they were not economic. They can be re-entered and will produce small amounts.
Some can be re-completed and/or drilled deeper opening up new zones that could create a good well. This happened on one of our properties outside Fresno, CA. The wells had been abandoned again in the 80s and then a company re-entered the wells and now they are flowing 310+ barrels a day which is a decent well. But most aren't this productive and remain stripper wells for the remainder of their life.
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believes if only we opened them up we wouldn't be so dependent on ME oil thereby making gasoline affordable again.
Hmmm. I like to keep the family visits pleasant and have stopped discussing contrary viewpoints.
cynthia |
This won't happen.
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Snik Tar Sands


Joined: Jun 19, 2008 Posts: 75
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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Total bunk Zeke. At $140 per BO there nobody is stupid enough to be "sitting" on any oil reserves, except for the federal government of course.  |
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eastbay Moderator


Joined: Dec 18, 2004 Posts: 4963 Location: One Mile From the Columbia River
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Lots of "untapped" wells in US "just sitt |
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| Snik wrote: | Total bunk Zeke. At $140 per BO there nobody is stupid enough to be "sitting" on any oil reserves, except for the federal government of course.  |
.... unless they think it'll be significantly more expensive in the not-too-distant future, maybe?  _________________ Got Dharma?
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