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maverickdoc Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject: why is the value of the dollar going up recently |
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The US is forcing Iraq to trade oil in Dollars again and deposit the dollars with the fed. Don't expect the rally to last log, in the past three days big institutions, Russia, and maybe even China unloaded large amounts of US dollar.
"The Iraqi central bank has built up five billion dollars in reserves in recent months which have been deposited with the US Federal Reserve, a top US treasury official said Tuesday."
http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=20833
There is talk that Russia is moving towards petro-euro, any news? |
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bruin Heavy Crude


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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| The dollar is also helped by Bush proposing cut backs to spending. Also, Greenspan indicated at least 3 more interest rate hikes to 3.25%. |
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Pops Moderator


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I agree, it is our new budget: forget education, veterans and old folks – but make sure the tax cuts for the 99.9th percentile become permanent. _________________ Make a plan and work it: |
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MarkL Moderator


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maverickdoc Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| MarkL wrote: | This is probably another reason why the dollar stopped its slide.
The Financial Times link has rolled over into their archieves and requires registration but the quote from the article gives the idea. |
Yes this is a very good article.
"The dollar is also helped by Bush proposing cut backs to spending"
Even if he gets the budget through as is, it will tack on a $427 billion + $80 billion more (maybe even more with his social security plan and Medicare drug benefits packet).
I highly doubt he will get it through with out some more pork being added on. Bottom line we can expect at least a $550billion extra tacked on the budget deficit.
Just look at go:
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ |
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smiley Fission


Joined: Apr 16, 2004 Posts: 2107 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm
$7,629,245,507,947.33 on 02/10/2005
$7,379,052,696,330.32 on 09/30/2004
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$250,192,811,617.01
That means that Bush has managed to spend over 250 billion dollar in the first 4 months of this fiscal year!
I don't think he can keep this year's deficit under 600 billion. |
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maverickdoc Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| smiley wrote: | http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm
$7,629,245,507,947.33 on 02/10/2005
$7,379,052,696,330.32 on 09/30/2004
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$250,192,811,617.01
That means that Bush has managed to spend over 250 billion dollar in the first 4 months of this fiscal year!
I don't think he can keep this year's deficit under 600 billion. |
Real question is how long will the Japs and the Chinese keep bailing us out ? |
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Evltre Heavy Crude

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Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Posts: 213 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| maverickdoc wrote: | | Real question is how long will the Japs and the Chinese keep bailing us out ? |
Sooner or later they will have to cut their losses - surely they won't hang in there for ever? |
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tmazanec1 Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| Well, it has dropped a bit the last few days, at least compared to the Euro. |
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Kingcoal Expert


Joined: Sep 29, 2004 Posts: 2330 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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When the losses quit being paper losses, crap hits the fan. China and Japan want the buying to continue. When Americans loose their buying power, they loose their power.
In the mean time, Europe is finding out that having lots of buying power isn't such at great thing for profitability of their companies.
Volkswagen Profit Falls on Sales Drop in China, U.S. |
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maverickdoc Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:26 am Post subject: |
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US net capital inflows dip to $61.3 bln in Dec cutting it real close
| Quote: | WASHINGTON, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Net inflows of capital into U.S. assets eased to $61.3 billion in December, in line with expectations and enough to finance the nation's current account deficit that month, a Treasury Department report showed on Tuesday.
Net inflows of capital in December slowed from a revised $89.3 billion in November that was originally reported as $81.0 billion. November's inflow was the highest level since $103.9 billion in May 2003.
Currency analysts had forecast a net inflow into U.S. assets of roughly $60 billion for December.
Financial market participants watch the report as a measure of foreigners' appetite for U.S. assets.
The United States depends on foreign investors buying U.S. assets like Treasury bonds to finance its current account deficit, and so net inflows short of the deficit could have increased selling pressure on the dollar.
The dollar initially recovered some losses against the euro on the news that December's flows would have been just enough to offset the $56.4 billion monthly U.S. trade deficit in the last month of 2004. |
http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh01367_2005-02-15_15-35-18_n15469638_newsml |
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maverickdoc Intermediate Crude


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skateari Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think the dollars recent comeback is just a move by China to allow them a high price on their dollars when they sell them. China has been using its banks to trade dollars recently in order to raise the value of the dollar. This, I think, is a move to allow them to sell out of the dollar at a high price. It should also allow the world a chance to sell their dollars at minimal loss. This should all work well if it is managed and if everyone knows when to dump.
This is scary because as of the last few days, massive selloffs of the dollar has been occuring. This could mean that the dollars high-point has been reached and now the planned selloff will happen. This will be a very hard hit to the dollar as all of its supports and pegging will bail out all at once so China will only incure minimal losses.
Nows the time to buy Euros or Gold  |
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maverickdoc Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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One major reason people are bailing out of the dollar is because oil is getting too expensive to buy in dollars. Think about it if you hold dollars then a barrel of oil cost $51. If you hold euros it you can get it for 38.63 euros. This is because crude is universally priced in dollars and if you hold a currency like the euro that is stronger, you win because of the conversion (51/1.32) quite a bargain don't you think? You may have to finally convert your currency to dollars (and take a conversion risk) but you still come out way ahead. Iran currently accepts Euro so it’s even better no conversion risk.
As the price of oil goes up the value of dollar will go down |
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pea-jay Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jul 17, 2004 Posts: 1600 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Looks like some of our Asian creditors are "reexamining" their dollar holdings. S. Korea wants to diversify their holdings. Watch out for falling dollar (values). _________________ UNplanning the future...
http://unplanning.blogspot.com |
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