"Conclusion: Expect a severe downturn in the world's economy over the next two years as Bilderbergers try to safeguard the remaining oil supply by taking money out of people's hands. In a recession or, at worst, a depression, the population will be forced to dramatically cut down their spending habits, thus ensuring a longer supply of oil to the world's rich as they try to figure out what to do."
The whole article is very interesting. _________________ **no english mothertongue**
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Joined: Feb 23, 2005 Posts: 242 Location: Kingston, ON, Canada
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:27 am Post subject:
I don't really see how that conclusion follows from the facts reported above it. They talk about how the attendees were shocked at how quickly oil prices are rising, how quickly the end of oil is coming, etc. and then the writer jumps right into "Conclusion: expect the Powers to engineer a recession!"
I think a recession is coming anyway, but I don't think the Bilderberg attendees are going to engineer one. Even if they have the power to (which I admit is possible), why would they want to? They're all presidents of companies; people aren't buying cars and computers when they don't have jobs!
Joined: May 20, 2005 Posts: 204 Location: Austin, Tx
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:37 am Post subject:
"They" don't need to do anything. This will happen of its own accord. High prices will lead to demand destruction. Given that much of the oil is out of Bilderbergy control (you know, in the hands of brown people who don't go to posh resorts to plan world domination), whatever they want doesn't really matter.
Also, this article claims that oil is necessary for economic growth (true). Then it claims oil supply is dwindling quickly (probably true). Then it claims the Bilderbergs want to cause a depression (no growth) in order to preserve the rest of oil. To what end though since there will be no economic growth. The oil will just sit in the ground in this scenario. It also ignores the sort of obvious fact that China will just buy every barrell that we don't use. They obviously have a very different agenda than the old rich white dudes.
Anyway, this article is just ridiculous. So this super secret society leaks its agenda from the meeting and lets people take pictures? Right. And they're simultaneously pro-one world government, pro-UN, while also pro-Israel, pro-free market, pro-EU...ummm, yeah. They're pro-globalization, but anti-outsourcing of European jobs to Asia and Eastern Europe. They want to bring China into their globalization plans--ignoring the fact that China is the major player in world production and consumption. Wal Mart has already done this--but I see no mention of the Walton family there. Instead it speaks of shadowy plans of Rockefeller and Kissinger to do exactly what Wal Mart has already done. Dudes you missed the boat on that one. What else--oh yeah, they want to cause a depression to keep the oil from being used. But then, Queen Beatrix is also bummed because she lost money from Shell downgrading its reserves and is worried that if news that reserves are lower than thought leaks to the public, it will cause economic collapse. Well if they control the public and everything else, how could word leak, and how could the economy collapse if they control it? Nevermind that we all know about the oil situation. So they missed the boat again. Then this Israel nonsense flies in the face of all facts. They claim 50% of Israelis want ethnic cleansing of the territories. This would be the same Israeli public that currently supports leaving the territories. Why would the same people want to leave the territory, but kill everyone there after they leave? Why is the Israeli government, the US government, and everyone else basically hell bent on returning Israel to pre-1947 lines (e.g. out of Samaria, Judea and Gaza)? The actual facts on the ground are that the Israeli public doesn't want to be in the territories (most of them) and that the world (including the so called Neo-cons in the US government) wants them out too. This hardly sounds like the Bilderbergs are driven by a pro-Israeli agenda.
Oh, and this UN oil tax? Please. Not going to happen. Oh, and this Bilderbergs are mad at Blair for supporting the US invasion, but they still think he's a swell guy--ummm, if they want one world government, don't they support destruction of sovereignty (like invasions and occupations)? Oh, and raising world tax rates to 58%? Haha, nice try again douchebags.
Basically this is the stupidest, least thought out, most nonsensical article I've read since the last Bilderberg article.
Face it, they're a bunch of rich white folks (with some token women and maybe a black guy or two) who get together to gossip and feel important and powerful. From this article we can guess that they're pretty much out of the loop on everything, hold contradictory positions on everything, and completely ignore that places like Japan, China, India, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Venezuela all have minds of their own, all have a hell of a lot of economic power, and don't really give a damn about what some folks meeting at posh hotels in Europe want for them. All those non-white folks of the world can turn off the oil spigots or pull their money from our markets and enforce their own will on the silly Bilderbergs.
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 4189 Location: 1st territorial capitol of AZ
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject:
I agree, anyone who can farm, live on the land, get along OK without "de white man" will end up with the last laugh.
I fully expect WWII type gas rationing, and am working towards going car-free.
The "rich old white men" are going to be very disappointed when the rest of the world takes their ball and bat and goes home. And it will serve them right! And most of the world would consider me a "spoiled rich white person" myself!
Joined: Mar 20, 2005 Posts: 46 Location: Australia
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
We believe we know what is coming so we need scapegoats.
Scapegoats are like coats in that you have to try them on, kickem around and see how they fit.
Personaly I think China is a great goat for western consumption but if some people what to put on the Bilderbergy coat and give it a go I say let them. _________________ If I wish hard enough this problem will go away!
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