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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Fishermen strike Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Italian fishermen announced a one week strike. Reason: price of diesel gas to power their boats is so high they can't cover expenses anymore.
They blame price of diesel over italian govt. and taxes.

No fish in restaurants next week... fishes are very happy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Fishermen strike Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Barbara wrote:

No fish in restaurants next week... fishes are very happy.


fish are friends not food

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Fishermen strike Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Barbara wrote:
Italian fishermen announced a one week strike. Reason: price of diesel gas to power their boats is so high they can't cover expenses anymore.
They blame price of diesel over italian govt. and taxes.

No fish in restaurants next week... fishes are very happy.


Sounds awfully familiar and things really seem to go from bad to worse in the Eurozone. The EU economy is next to stagnant, diesel prices are through the roof, and if the PO analysts get their way fish isn't on the menu very soon. The fish are saved, but it isn't a good sign for things to come.

I'm really starting to believe the US may well be better off for a while, where the EU will have taken a full blow by higher oil prices and an economy in recession. We'll see.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thor I promise you we are all in this together.

If we are seeing PO the US economy will crash. It really is over do for a big correction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Fish are friends, tasty, tasty, friends.

I wonder when the break even point will be where sailboats are more econically feasable than power boats for fishing? You catch less fish, because you can't tear around all over hell and gone as easily. But, the water stays cleaner, no fuel costs (but occasionally someone has to sit down with the waxed linen and sailor's palm lol) and the rejuvenation of fish stocks may make sailing really pay off after a while.

I'm just a big admirer of sailboats Smile

I'd say the difference is something like my dumping the car and going over to all-bike transportation. Slower, can't carry a huge load but most of the time my "catch" was not that big anyway, carryable by bike, and it's nice to the environment!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I_Like_Plants wrote:
Fish are friends, tasty, tasty, friends.

I wonder when the break even point will be where sailboats are more econically feasable than power boats for fishing?


Good point. If you look at shipbuilding in general, then all I can say is that there has been a structural decline and destruction of shipyard industry throughout the EU for more cheap spots like Asia. Perhaps times will return where local sailboat industry becomes economically feasible, but things will need to get considerably worse for this to happen.
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