I think also there will be two waves of crashing. However I think that europe will be just as bad as U.S.A. in economical terms. The major diffrence is that we stil have some structure left due or middevel town layouts and farming. However I don't believe that the part of Europe where I live can feed it self. They need cheep imports to feed.
My contry is almost one city.
And then the politicians they are plain stupid and don't think about the problems that will come. Or kapitalistic system was great to create wealth, but it will be the wrong system for pot-peak world. We need a community system. People arn't ready for that, and won't be ready post-peak as they will be to busy with bashing each other head.
However maybe it won't be so hard just a big and slow recession. Afteral when the world was using 50 mil barrels a day it wassn't a bad place to live. But if you have a recession like that you wan't to have real estate and no debts so that you can live very cheap. Now I have to pay rent al the time. Buying a house means a mortage for over 20 to 40 year wich is completly crazy!
So again how do I solve the problem peak oil. I feel previledged by knowing what is comming but frustrated I don't have the recourses to take my desteny in my hands.
Enqust
PS. there arn't any very rich people on this forum who can give me some money?
Have you ever considered immigrating to another country in the EU? Or maybe just working there in a smaller village (for example near Augsburg, Germany, a large city surrounded by farmland)? Of course, maybe you'd be kicked out or isolated when TSHTF...???? But perhaps you could rent a small cottage somewhere like Elgau or Oberndorf a. Lech (in between Augsburg and Donauworth on a train line) and start a large garden in the back?
Or, if you can make a living and afford it now, move near Brno in the Czech Republic or Bratislavia, Slovakia and buy a cottage in the country and get a residency permit? I guess it all depends on what your profession is....
Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 1416 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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So again how do I solve the problem peak oil. I feel previledged by knowing what is comming but frustrated I don't have the recourses to take my desteny in my hands.
Well this has been said many a time in the planning for the future forum, but I'll repeat.
1. Get in shape. If you are worried about living in a world where you'll need to live off the sweat off your own brow make sure that sweat is worth something. If you are fit enough to be able to work in a field all day then it doesn't matter if you own the field or not because your muscles will be in demand.
2. Get a skill. Make yourself valuable so that any community in a post collapse world would be happy for you to join.
Doing these two things doesn't require alot of money and doesn't burn any bridges. So even if you personally think option 3 only has a 10% likelyhood it still makes sense to take these actions. If you are primarily worried about option 2 (depression/recession) you shouldn't worry about basic survival and therefore a lack of land is not an issue. _________________ Biofuels: The "What else we got to burn?" answer to peak oil.
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