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And next...
The conclusion of Jarod Diamond's GGS
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Are we gonna find the bandwitdth resource war here
All the peakoilers are online watching
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The first part looks like an ad for the Ovshinsky. What's the catch with their solid metal alloy that stores hydrogen? price?
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Hey khebab, did you watch the first part?
Metal alloy, filled with H2 and generating heat.
Change H2 to D2 and you are in the Pons -Fleischmann effect 
Excessive heat in metal deuterides. I think those guys blew the chance to make Hydrogen batteries in 1989 (as everyone else seems to think so)
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This past Sunday, that same series did a thing on the positive things hydrogen can do. I didn't watch today's show, but I thought Sunday's was interesting. For me, one major hurdle of hydrogen has been overcome.
Most people call difficulties in transporting it a problem. However, it has been shown that it is possible to produce hydrogen fuel onsite at gas stations. While this doesn't suddenly make hydrogen viable, it is a huge step forward, imo.
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| TheSupplyGuy wrote: | This past Sunday, that same series did a thing on the positive things hydrogen can do. I didn't watch today's show, but I thought Sunday's was interesting. For me, one major hurdle of hydrogen has been overcome.
Most people call difficulties in transporting it a problem. However, it has been shown that it is possible to produce hydrogen fuel onsite at gas stations. While this doesn't suddenly make hydrogen viable, it is a huge step forward, imo. |
Correct which leaves one point unanswered. How do we create electricity in distributed sustainable manner to make hydrogen. That part has not been answered yet. Our grids have a hard time keeping the lights on with the deregulation BS
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| EnergySpin wrote: | | Hey khebab, did you watch the first part? |
I just watched it, it's a good show for the Ovshinsky but there are no criticism or discussion on the eventual limitations. I like the part when Alan asked: "What's keeping us from having these in our cars to produce hydrogen?" Of course, no answer  .
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| khebab wrote: | | The first part looks like an ad for the Ovshinsky. What's the catch with their solid metal alloy that stores hydrogen? price? |
Depends on what it is made from I guess. The whole thing sounds hocus pocus. Do we know of any scientific publications from this guy about the technology?
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Apparently he got a patent in 1984 for that solar panel technology. He is not a quack,this is well known ... the question is does he have something that can be mass produced or not. MIT has a page on him here
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| EnergySpin wrote: | | Apparently he got a patent in 1984 for that solar panel technology. He is not a quack,this is well known ... the question is does he have something that can be mass produced or not. MIT has a page on him here |
I watched the show and read the profile at MIT's website. Wow! This guy is obviously not a quack! If anybody is going to save the world from peak oil it'll be this guy! He figured out a way to mass produce cheap solar panels and he's currently rolling them out of his factory and selling them in mass quantities. This guy is a genius! Check out his company Here |
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Does somebody known the performances and cost of their thin-film photovoltaic system?
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can someone post the full show titles etc - I'd ask for a .torrent link, but that might be breaking some site rule?
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No
This one
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