'Kunstler.com' J.H. Kunstler [WEB]

eastbay · Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:00 am Post subject:

"Also troubling is the presumption that even if we manage to pacify this large, violent, desperate place, that such pacification will send a message to other dangerous nations in the region that such a state of coercive pacification is to be envied."

Great quote!

Oh yes, we can already see the other Middle Eastern nations lining up for some of the ever-so-desireable, fresh-from-America, democracy lessons such as those delivered daily to the people of Iraq.

AlCzervik · Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:56 am Post subject:

I just polished off this book over the weekend. I think it is a solid read, and would be a pretty good introduction to peak oil as Kunstler gives a solid recitation of the history of oil and debunks all of the magic bullet "solutions" to the coming global peak problem.

I wish Kunstler would dial down his criticism of the aesthetics of modern architecture and just stick to why it is impractical as fossil fuels decline. I don't give a crap what he thinks is ugly. And, yes, I would be a millionaire if I had a nickel for everytime he uses the terms "cheap oil fiesta," "cheap oil blowout," and "sclerotic." That said, he is an extremely entertaining author and we need guys like this to shake people up and tell the masses what is coming. Kunstler is just the type of guy who can help.

The highlight of the book for me was in the context of his position on race relations, reading crackerass cracka Kunstler's breakdown of rap music and hip hop culture. He believes that this culture is childish, and that since children do not get involved in politics, rap and hip hop are a road to nowhere in terms of helping the cause of black America. I guess he never heard of Public Enemy or KRS One, which were almost entirely political acts. But, maybe he is right. Maybe it is all about money and hoes now, I don't know.

His conclusion with the personal touch of weaving his life and especially his parents into the peak oil story is quite touching.

pstarr · Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject:

you can not seperate Kunstler's long standing critique of suburbia and modern architecture from his concerns for peak oil. We could have built cities of the future instead of theme parks. We could have built truly green building instead of neo-romantic whore houses. We could have built archologies instead of post-modern jokes. We could have built living machines instead of dead institutional boxes. Kunstler is now rabid because he saw and dreamed about the possibilities before we so permanently Fark it.

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twofiftyfive · Tar Sands Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 30

I_Like_Plants, is this you?

I_Like_Plants · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: Jim Kunstler's Dispair

http://www.energybulletin.net/7383.html

Happy reading!

EnergySpin · Fission Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 2381

seldom_seen · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 1978

Mad props to the kunstlernator from the seldom.

I enjoy his blog and his books. You've got to have your ear to the ground if you want to hear the buffalo coming, and the kunstlernator has his ear to the ground.

I_Like_Plants · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:44 am Post subject:

Are you all sitting down? Good! Now listen: I didn't write that article.

No one has an agenda to get him, some ppl just read what he's actually saying and what he's basing his worldview on.

And he didn't invent the term "McMansion" and the rest of those.

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I_Like_Plants · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:19 am Post subject:

Kunstler also didn't invent his neocon beliefs and pro-war stance (go read his blog, all of it, on this) but he states them in some entertaining ways too. In fact there's an article out there about these neocon beliefs and stances of his, "The angst or Kunstler" or something, I started a thread on it here but it was removed.

EnviroEngr · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject: Merged?

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