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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: Re: US don't want chinese investors
drattom wrote:
Does US congress wants empty shelves in all Wal Mart? I
I would very much like to see empty shelves in all WalMarts
Seriously: there is a very thin line between politics and economy. Fact is the U.S. is very much dependent on foreign investments. Since the Chinese economy is booming, the U.S. government should really promote foreign investments on their own soil in stead of making it less attractive. _________________ "In the U.S., fears are so exaggerated and out of control that anxiety is the number-one mental health problem in the country.", Barry Glassner
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: Re: US don't want chinese investors
My guess the reason why the congressmen were so adamantly opposed to the Unocal deal perhaps had to do with their patents on reformulated gasoline. Otherwise, I think the tactic could backfire big time when it comes to financing the treasury where the US is totally dependent upon the Chinese.
Joined: Mar 13, 2005 Posts: 126 Location: Bellingham, Wash
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: US don't want chinese investors
The same thing happened back in the 80's when the Japanese were buying up all the US real estate (eg, Rockefeller Center in NYC). I think it's alarmist.
But on the flip side, the US (imo) realizes there is a significant problem with securing oil in the future when you have an entire economy based upon one primary energy source.
This is just another act of desperation, as is the US entering into unprecedented act of aggression against sovereign nations. Unfortunately, corporations look no further than their next quarterly earnings reports, and politicians look no further than their next re-election.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: US don't want chinese investors
I really think it has very little to do with oil reserves.
The thing is, that Unocal is very, very cozy with president Bush. The president of Afghanistan was formerly a Unocal employee(just to show you how cozy they are).
If Unocal profits, Bush profits. If Unocal gets bought for an astronomical inflated price, Bush gets lots, and lots of money.
Essentially, this is the Chinese way of offering Bush a bribe. They say "hey, we want X, Y, Z favors done, in exchange, we will pay you huge, huge sums of money, all you have to do is screw your country on these various trade policies". Now, it's understandable that China would do that, and that Bush would accept such an offer. However, many people do not like the idea of the U.S president being bribed, and so they staunchly attack this proposal.
They can't use the arguement "Hey, this is just one big bribe", because obviously the American people are so dumb, that even though Bush repeatidly lied to them, and has been proven a liar, and his father repeatidly lied to them, they continue to follow Bush. If somebody says "Hey, Bush is a crook", and tries to reveal what's going on, they will only get support from the democrats. However, if they say "this could hurt our oil reserves", then that garners support from the conservatives. It does hurt U.S oil reserves, barley, but it does.
The main reason remains however, that it's just one big bribe.
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